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which is unusual to begin with is strangulation. men will strangle women to keep them from shouting out, but with women killing another woman it s usually a gunshot wound or a stab wound because you have to have a great deal of disparity in strength between the perpetrator and the decedent to do strangulation, so that is going to be hard to tell. and strangulation doesn t cause bleeding in the car. you need a puncture of the skin to cause bleeding. jenna: you continue to think it s potentially a stabbing. a stab wound of some kind. jenna: we described this woman, giselle esteban as a friend. apparently there was some sort of argument over a man. a boy, that s usual. jenna: that s allegedly what caused it. they knew each other five years ago. jenna: tke did indeed. we are seeing giselle on the screen right now. as we get more developments