The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. Mark, on top of that, Radio Silence from the president on that statement and on the hack overall. Why . Well, because he doesnt necessarily know what to say. What he has done at this point is that he has put his intelligence chiefs in a very awkward position because they are not go you to have to come out and answer for what President Trump said less than 24 hours ago, where he said that this probe the mueller probe, quote, from the from the reuters article played right into the russians, if it was russia, they played into the russian hands. The idea the president of the United States continues to cast doubt on his own Intelligence Agencies findings that russia is trying to infiltrate our Electoral System is amazing. The fact that he continues to get away with it just really is astounding. Its shocking. How dangerous is it that this happened . That it was clearly targeted. You remember marco rubio in 2016 wh
positive. they had a congratulatory phone call and u.s. officials were comfortable with the direction things were going. and then things turned sour. and so one conversation, for instance, he had with vladimir putin, trump actually broached the subject of zelensky and said, what do you think about him? and putin said, according to a western official familiar with the conversation, that this is someone with this is a comedian and somebody who is linked to ukrainian corrupt oligarchs. he was speaking of cole moye ski at this point. this is somebody who has a longtime oppositional and sort of tiff with putin over a long period of time. so these conversations added to each other and sort of reinforced trump s view already that ukrainian officials are corrupt. ukrainian officials did not want him to win the 2016 election. and that was a view that was very difficult for u.s. officials to combat and counteract, who saw ukraine as a country that they wanted to ally
with and strengthen with as it was fending off russian-backed separatists in the east. according to your reporting, the efforts by putin and orban were actually anticipated by national security officials. i mean how did it go from, you know, folks in the trump white house, the national security team, you know, being concerned that putin and orban were going to be whispering in the president s ear about this to the point where they actually that actually happened? that s right. there was a very contentious decision over whether or not to invite viktor orban to washington to have a meeting with president trump. this is something that gives a lot of credibility to leaders and a lot of u.s. officials saw the hungarian prime minister as someone who was part of a sort of right-wing populist movement in europe that is sort of antithetical to some western values, not helpful towards the fight to support ukraine against russia, that s for sure. and they opposed that position,
kaitlan, reportedly telling the president that all roads lead to putin. here we are with yet another road leading to or from putin. and this was a big question inside the white house when the president wanted to make that july call to zelensky because he had already made a congratulatory call earlier in the year. they had already spoken, got that out of the way. people were surprised, we were told when we were reporting this out, by the president wanting to make that phone call because before he had essentially dismissed zelensky, believing he was just like his predecessor. he was going to be corrupt, wasn t going to be able to make any kind of reforms or changes, but also noting that the way the president has reacted to these two people who were very anti-corruption and how the president has squared that with his insistence that this was all about corruption in ukraine when he was pushing them about joe biden and about that unsubstantiated theory, really pulls that into view for you
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