remember by the way, don t embarrass her. we can put it on the screen. she looks great. she won. there it is. mallory, it s not just guys who like to look at beautiful women. women like to look at beautiful women. my mother is one of 11, eight sisters and three brothers. when i was growing up, i remember when before the cell phone era they would all be working their push button phones and calling one another my god, look at miss mississippi, look at miss texas. they loved getting caught up in all of it. sure. we can absolutely do both. and there are women everyday out in the community doing wonderful things that are both beautiful and service driven. and you know, no one is saying that moving forward in the miss america pageant shouldn t take care of their bodies, shouldn t be healthy and shouldn t be beautiful. listen, the miss america organization is not going to change their public perception of what is beautiful or what is