to get off 17 shots? it sounds like he managed to shoot three people, right? two died, one critically injured? reporter: right. let me tell you what we ve been hearing from some of the witnesses. it is pretty consistent that the guy shot a couple times, first couple rounds. there was a little bit of a pause. and then the rest of the 15 or 18 shots. so did he go in there looking for somebody and shooting them? we don t know. of course we re going to hear at the news conference hopefully very soon. but as far as you know what he did, he calmly walked we are told down the main stem of the mall after shooting those initial two victims and shooting indiscrimminantly. one woman said he pointed the gun at her and fired and missed. so maybe it is as simple as the guy was a bad shot. we don t know exactly what this gun was but is is described as an assault rifle. you would expect more victims would have been shot at this event. megyn: dan springer.
ultimately he took two lives and critically injured another person before apparently turning the gun on himself. we still have no word or understanding of motive. can we ever? welcome to america live , everyone, i m megyn kelly. at this point we re waiting to hear from the clackamas county authorities. we could soon learn the gunman s identity or information about motive or background at least. we have heard police do not believe this man knew his victims. that he was shooting indiscrimminantly. the shooting sent people in the mall near portland running for their lives. witnesses said the gunman started firing outside of macy s in the food court. one said the gunman practically announced himself with the chilling words, i am the shooter, before he began shooting at random. a series of rapid shots were fired as christmas music played in the background. horrified shoppers leaving scene with their hands up. you can see some of that there as they were escorted
our police sources say look like there were two crimes scene. 10 east 33rd and 34th and 5th. this is what we re getting, the shooter was shooting described to me by the police source as shooting indiscrimminantly. people were shot.n= occurred, thiscç.kñouiuo?k obviously the shooting occurred in the street. we re still unclear whether it, you know, this was a robbery inside the empire one of the shops around it. what appears to be developing here is an indiscriminate shooting by the perpetrator, and, at two locations, 10 east 33rd and, 30 for theth and fifth. as i say this is developing story. we re getting bits and pieces here. if this is the case, it seems to me, this is just appearances, that it is probably a shop outside or in the area. bill: could have been. jamie: slight update too on the condition of those folks
and b, our eyewitness, jacquee boothby talked about him approaching one of the security guards that seemed to usher people in and out of the empire state building for a tour of the observation deck on the 88th floor. can you say whether or not gunfire with the gunman? reporter: i don t know.p9ú>í8 can tell you certainty, a@ thatw @ívñxwv worked base of÷ñtheú building,pñ;÷p+x=o< say that he shortly after 9:00, seven or eight rounds being fired. said there was an awful lot of shooting but again he himself did not witness it thiswwwwww what@wwww , bill, had to sayú o one orúa two shots. repeated gunshots that were heard and that would be consistent what we re hearing about multiple victims. jamie: i do have one piece of information on this. the associated press quoting a witness telling fox news
local affiliate that she was a witness to it and that the gunman was quote, shooting indiscrimminantly at people. bill: it is kind of what we heard. more developments. this is what we re getting from our sources close to the new york city police department. this was an employee of the empire state building who was fired yesterday and then came out and shot someone , inctly this morningxx÷ we rexxxpxx hearing.pp theoslslwpgpgpgpgpg werepg onwho detail broke it up.÷÷÷÷÷÷ when this thing started to get out of hand. obviously it was a gunbattle. bill: what was this positions person at the building? is it possible he was a security guard himself? it s possible, what we re a gentlemanú: employee atp@ inside the empire state building. empire stateúñpç +++q÷÷pk@-zupupupupupupupupu(?