it was not the right decision. it was the wrong decision, period. there s no excuse for that. again, i wasn t there, but i m just telling you from what we know, we believe there should have been an entry as soon as you can. hey, when there s an active shooter the rules change. it s no longer okay, it s no longer barricaded. you don t have time. and, by the way, texas embraces active shooter training, active shooter certification, and that doctrine requires officers, we don t care what agency you re from, you don t have to have a leader on the scene. every officer lines up, stacks up, goes and finds where the rounds are being fired and keep shooting until the subject is dead, period. but that s not what happened. let s get to cnn s shimon prokupecz. you have been there on the scene trying to get answers for days and this afternoon we got them and they re devastating. reporter: they are truly devastating. and you just feel for these families, to hear the police, the leadi
11:27 a.m. before the suspect entered the school, he immediately unleashed more than 100 rounds, shortly after that, three officers entered the school and two of them were immediately grazed by the gunman s bullets. john: according to texas dps, as many as 19 officer gathered in the hallway as of 12:03:00 p.m. no effort was made to breach the door of the classroom until 40 minutes later. law enforcement facing questions and criticism over the amount of time that passed before they stormed the classroom to stop the carnage. uvalde mayor will join us in the next hour, but we have team coverage this hour on all angles. karl rove will join us in moment. alicia is live in houston where the nra convention is being held. john: bill melugin, what a news conference that was. bill: yeah, john, that is an understatement. i think our jaws hit the floor as well, one of the big highlights we learned from the moment the shooter was first encountered by police in that school until th
highlighting the actions of the incident commander, the commander on the ground making the decisions here. he identified him as the uvalde school district police chief and he said it s an inexcuseable decision that was made and in hindsight it was the wrong decision made to not breach that door. he says the police chief decided to treat it as a barricade situation rather than an active shooter situation. and director mccraw says you cannot do that and under texas law, texas policies with their active shooter doctrine, you have to go straight in and neutralize that threat. take a listen. texas embraces and teaches, ok, the active shooter doctrine. as long as there are kids and as long as there is someone spiring, go to the gun, neutralize him, period. and only some nuances with transition to a barricaded
and teaches the active shooter doctrine. as long as there s kids and someone s firing, you go to the gun, you find them, you neutralize them. period. there s nuances with going transition to a barricaded subject and transitioning to a hostage situation. of course, the decision at the scene was that this is still a barricade subject that did not go back to an active shooter. where is the police chief? why isn t he here to take our questions? because i m here to address the latest timeline and facts we know. you are welcome to reach out to him. i would like to ask the fbi a question. i defer you want to take questions? how many children were hold on.
bill: bill, continue. bill: i thought you said something. looking at the timeline he was first encountered by police in that school until the moment he was killed there was an hour and 16 minutes. you heard dps say they teach active shooter doctrine in texas. when there is an active shooter, you go in, you go directly to that threat, and you neutralize it as fast as possible. unfortunately, that didn t happen here. he is calling that decision a bad decision in hindsight, an inexcusable decision. essentially this comes down to the on scene commander who we are told it is the uvalde school district police chief decided this would be a barricade situation rather than an active shooter situation. he believed it had transitioned into somebody locked inside the class, didn t know if the kids were alive or not, and they had