i was going to say there are points in that interview with katy tur in which he sounded so incriminating to president trump. it s very hard to follow. this is a guy who has more shifting stories than stormy daniels which is hard to do, but he has managed to do it. i don t know exactly, and i think we all don t know exactly what information he is referring to when he says mueller s got the goods on trump. he suspects that there is something there. but, you know, it s one marker in i think a long story that s going to unfold. the other thing about this is there is a lot of pressure being brought to bear on a lot of people right now. and you re seeing how people behave under that pressure in painful detail. nick akerman, neil, thanks for your time tonight. there is a second steele dossier describing, get this, new claims of russian intervention alleging kremlin influence over trump s cabinet selection. that story in two minutes. mattress is dangerously comfortable. when i get in, i
well, i started going through my e-mails and i thought well, i don t want to comply. what are you going to do? his excuses, it would take him 80 hours as opposed to the next 18 months that he has to spend in jail. neil, go ahead. i was going to say there are points in that interview with katy tur in which he sounded so incriminating to president trump. it s very hard to follow. this is a guy who has more shifting stories than stormy daniels which is hard to do, but he has managed to do it. i don t know exactly, and i think we all don t know exactly what information he is referring to when he says mueller s got the goods on trump. he suspects that there is something there. but, you know, it s one marker in i think a long story that s going to unfold. the other thing about this is there is a lot of pressure being brought to bear on a lot of people right now. and you re seeing how people behave under that pressure in painful detail. nick akerman, neil, thanks for your time tonight
but papadoupolos s disclosures to the fbi as part of his guilty plea for lying about his contacts with russians during the campaign are already affecting the administration. and we learned that the start of the trial and the paul manafort and rick gates case won t happen until may 72018 at the earlier. prosecutors say it will take at least three weeks to lay out the case. that means it will push into the summer keeping russia in the spot light as the midterm congressional races heat up. thanks. let s get straight to our panel. also with us cnn political analyst and washington post columni columnist. we re learning page actually met with officials during the campaign. his story has changed over time. and really not for the better if you re in the trump camp. what do you make of his shifting stories? well the fact is carter page first said on the record that he met with deputy prime minister
the list on friday included people whose connection to the investigation is in the alleged coverup, the story that was told about that meeting between donald trump jr., jared kushner, paul manafort, and russians who promised dirt on hillary clinton. john heilman said on this show collusion took place. it s not necessarily illegal to have colluded with the russians but the occasion for collusion is known. that s what bob mueller can really be focused on, what was promised, what actually happened in that meeting. are the stories that we know that have changed so many times actually true. getting and staying in the weeds when we look at that period of time, when we closer examine that period of time, more people knew about this, more people knew about the shifting stories, what was the vice-president level of involvement and knowledge. these are all the questions that he s going to be tremendously focused on. collusion in the sense that, yes, we know what was promised in that meeting an
general. so richard, what do you make of the shifting stories we hear from sessions? well, the attorney general statement, the justice department statement that you just ready considerably narrowed the scope of his denial to say he simply did not discuss with the russians interference with the campaign. that is half of the story with the russians. the other half of the story with the russians is what they wanted in return for interference with the campaign, which was a change in the united states policy towards russia, including the sanctions. attorney general sessions had repeatedly, including under oath, denied that he had any conversations with the russians on behalf of the trump campaign. and now they are changing the story. and narrowing this to focus only on conversations about interference with elections. i think that statement that you just read is an acknowledgement by the department of justice