in kind of segments. i agree with that position because you almost have to. we haven t had immigration reform really since 1986 and ronald reagan where it was amnesty, security. we ve only done amnesty. many conservatives and republicans. i would just take a vote democrats and republicans push this off. george w. bush also during his eight years in office didn t bring it. i agree with you. here s why we ll see immigration reform in 2013. doubtful. the achieve act essentially is by the way, the achieve act doesn t provide a path for citizenship. it s the dream act without the dream. it s a dud. two outgoing senators. that s valid. the stem act is proposed by lamar smith, notoriously anti-immigrant. when he s sponsoring an immigration reform bill, something has changed in the republican party. when two outgoing senators are proposing their version of immigration reform, something
politically but the easiest way to go about it. let s get the numbers of visas way up there so it reflects at least some bit of reality and stop criminalizing human existence. business push on this as well. there s a business push. frankly, there s going to be a fight. even though business is on the same side as immigrant rights movement, there will be a fight between business and those groups. because business will probably, the chamber of commerce and others will want a more conservative kind of immigration reform. just to back up to your textbook example, what s important about this discussion is 15 years ago, this was not in the mainstream of discourse. it was a small group of activists who dreamed about what immigration reform could look like and started organizing and pushing it. 15 years later, their theory of change has come true in terms of at least. yes. but in terms of knowing how immigration affects millions of people thinking through how those people could be mob
this is a moment on the one hand they re heckling, but the next moment they do basically what i have to read from a page in the republican handbook, they hand to him a policy. they re like here, do this. and sure enough, he does it. we end up with deferred action. right. is that the model for how we re going to get immigration reform done sm. i have to give those dreamers credit. they enlisted a lot of scholars and gave the president documents, this is a legal way for you to do what we want to do. meanwhile, they were chaining themselves to the white house, this is in the thick of the campaign, staging demonstrations at his campaign offices. this is true grassroots activism and they effected this change. for better or worse, the pressure is going to be on. because this issue, you know, the latino community has a great stake in it. so people do expect him to follow through and make
immigration reform. but now there s a thousand deportations a day. i m going to take a quick break here. i m going to bring into the conversation the issue on the pressure of the president and also we saw an action by the republican party this week and i think it leads us to the question of whether both parties are in fact under a lot of pressure on this question of immigration reform when we come back. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it s the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. starts with arthritis pain and a choice.
we ve been talking about the last two weeks of african-americans, latinos, asian americans, at the end of the day, going issue by issue, most of the voters don t agree with the platform. there s going to be a problem for all of the potential candidates to actually connect. not just in terms of their faces and issues of diversity but also on the issues, on choice, on climate change, on immigration reform. even though there s a shift on immigration reform, i don t think latino voters will all of a sudden flock to the republican party. we didn t get to mike fleck, is a state representative in pennsylvania who just came out making him the first out gay member of the republican party in pennsylvania. but i m interested in part because that represents more libertarian impulse in the republican party, one that again feels like it s been sort of overshadowed by social conservatism in the past couple of years. i want to talk about that when we come back and that decision on friday that had