responded, shieg wouldn t get into what he privately told obama about his position. it was more interesting people were taking it to kamala harris. she didn t have particularly good responses. whether it was biden going after her for her medicare for all plan, or tulsi gabbard talking about her bad criminal justice record where she was targeting peep 78 harshly. kamala harris did not have good responses. the lack of response might be more interesting than what was happening with biden. shannon: it may be a little bit of round one the vice president was caught off guard by the attacks that came his way. senator harris got a lot of attention, she was attacking, scoring the points, moving into another tier. but did she get the same treatment, maybe not expecting she would be the recipient of so much of this. definitely got a little bit