and everyone should have the opportunity to have that benefit. so it s not even just about our feelings. if i have paid for something in that store and purchased thinged, i should also be able to eat my lunch at that counter rather than go someplace else because i also have meetings. every time a cab passes me by in new york city with the light on, it means i m late for a meeting that i need go to and i m a person who runs an organization. so in some ways we want to make sure internally in the family we talk about the way in which it makes us feel but i think we have to quantify that this is about dollars and cents. this is about our ability to function in society, our kids and what they have access to, about your ability to write that paper someplace, your ability to raise money and so forth and i think sometimes we get away from that and i think it s important to ground ourselves in the reason for those battles. the reasons for the lunch counter sit-ins, freedom rides, wasn t just ab
raise money and so forth and i think sometimes we get away thefrom that. it s important to ground ourselves in that the reason for the freedom rides and the lunch counter sit ins, it wasn t just about our feelings and dignity but about what does it mean to be a full citizen with all the benefits, the privileges of that. sherrilyn, appreciate you being here. sherrilyn eiffel, thank you so much. rev and valerie, stay with us. up next, we explore the psychology behind why people call the cops when no crime is being committed. as we go to break, we went around the country listening to stories of bias in everyday life. here s one. it was surreal, looking around and seeing all this activity and understanding immediately what was happening. when did things go wrong? we were packing our vehicle, we are driving out, out of the blue police cars swoop down in front of us and behind us and cops are jumping out of their vehicles, hands on their hols r
a try. and it s worth a try not only for them to work internally, but also for them to think through what is the relationship that they should be having with the communities in which their stores sit? let s look at that first step, a portion of the training material that was shown today to starbucks workers. i have to make sure i have that enough space between myself and another patron or commuter on the train just ensure that i m not making someone uncomfortable. i have to make sure my hands are visible when i walk into certain places so they make sure i don t am not stealing. i watch my tone to make sure i don t come off as threatening. just leaving the house somedays, sometimes it just keeps you at home, keeps you away from everything. it s depressing, right, to hear the fear that people have to be in public spaces. i mean, you re shaking your head, valerie. because i think about what that s doing to the heart and soul of our young people to grow up in a place where you fe
ourselves in that the reason for the freedom rides and the lunch counter sit ins, it wasn t just about our feelings and dignity but about what does it mean to be a full citizen with all the benefits, the privileges of that? sherrilyn, appreciate you being here. sherrilyn eiffel, thank you so much. rev and valerie, stay with us. up next, we explore the psychology behind why people call the cops when no crime is being committed. as we go to break, we went around the country listening to stories of bias in everyday life. here s one. it was surreal, looking around and seeing all this activity and understanding immediately what was happening. when did things go wrong? we were packing our vehicle, we are driving out, out of the blue police cars swoop down in front of us and behind us and cops are jumping out of their vehicles, hands on their holsters pointing into the car, hands up, hands up, hands up. at that point i didn t even
country in hollywood and coffee shops and public spaces. they didn t do anything, i saw the entire thing. they asked to use the bathroom and the woman said it s for paying customers only then asked them to leave. they didn t do anything. [ cheers and applause ] we re talking about the kind of everyday racism that led to the arrests of two black men who were simply waiting for someone to show up at a business meeting at a philadelphia starbucks. and the more blatant kind, like the kind of hate, frankly, roseanne barr put out display today. she put out a racist attack on one of the guests joining us here tonight. valerie jarrett was a former senior adviser to president barack obama. also with us al sharpton and sherrilyn eiffel, the director counsel of the naacp defense and educational fund. thank you for being here. valerie, we want to give you an opportunity to respond to all that s happened today, not just the tweet but abc s response.