the fact is that there was a shell corporation used, which is not a good fact. the fact is that money flowed from the trump organization to michael cohen and then to the national inquirer. that will be problematic. shepard: that s evidence of a scheme. not of a happenstance. evidence of hiding something. the president will say it s all personal. i didn t want the embarrassment of this coming out. the prosecutor will respond, why did you set up this route of the funds? michael cohen was at the center of it. then we go back to mr. pecker. he s is the key witness in this. shepard: more to learn. it will be awhile. great to see you. great to see you. shepard: the news continues after this. are you a veteran, own a home, and need money for your family? newday usa can help. we earned a lot of va benefits with our service. but the va home loan benefit is a big one. if you want to use it to get cash, call newday usa. va loans are all they do.
would you guess? well, yeah. obviously the real key to all of this is the fact that after he pled guilty as part of a cooperation agreement, michael flynn met with the special counsel s investigators 19 times. shepard: yeah. the orchestra plays because they know we have a break in three minutes. we ll return with chris wallace after this. urance, and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything. like my bike and my calves. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. - [narrator] meet shark s newest robot vacuum. it powerfully cleans from floors to carpets, even pet hair, with ease, and now for cleaning surfaces above the floor, it comes with a built in shark handheld. one dock, two sharks. the shark ion robot cleaning system.
they re on tv. you can see the redactions. the areas of redactions, there s stuff we don t know. so we won t read into that anything, because we don t have the context and perspective of it. we ll all have it eventually. chris wallace is back in washington. if there s something here, i don t see it. let me correct one thing. shepard: please do. you said the court didn t agree with him. it s not the court. the court hasn t ruled. shepard: the prosecutor. the special counsel who is issuing that filing and arguing against flynn s attorneys. if you want to know who said that flynn lied, the president of the united states back in february of 2017, donald trump, is on the record as saying that flynn lied to the vice president and lied to the fbi. so i don t know that there s
inquirer, is now a cooperating witness. the national inquirer is a national co operating witness. david pecker had a safe. in the safe were secrets. does mueller have the safe? it s actually the southern district of northern that is investigating that. shepard: right. fd it s the prosecutor s office here in manhattan. pecker is at the center of the contribution issue. he was the man in the room. he hasn t lied to the prosecutors. he s been given immunity and you have to cooperate completely and give all evidence, including any physical ed. so he s going to be central. what the investigators are looking at right now, e-mails, memorandum. most importantly, the flow of funds. shepard: in an effort to learn the truth. that s right. shepard: these are career prosecutors looking for the truth.
shepard: let s talk the legal of this now. john is here. he s a former federal prosecutor in the united states attorney s office for the eastern district of new york. good enough to share his time with us. thank you. good afternoon. shepard: flynn lied to the fbi. he doesn t challenge that. he admits it. shepard: yeah, circumstances. yeah. no mitigating. not a mitigating circumstance. he will get probation regardless. there was nothing in that interview that was problematic. flynn himself never challenged the interview or said it was entrapment or the fbi did anything improper. it s a nonissue. shepard: the rest is redacted. i don t have anything revelat n revelationary out of, this david pecker, the head of ami, the company which owns the national