letter because he went to the beach with his children? you know, that just doesn t pass the smell test. i think that corey knew that there was something wrong with this. and so i think that he wasn t being particularly forthcoming. anybody looking at this can see that there s something wrong with this, which is why you might try to pass it off on someone else who didn t want to do it because they recognized there was something wrong with it. senator, isn t it kind of a weird way to run for senate by admitting that you re happy to lie to the american people? i know he was phrasing it as lying to the media, lying to reporters. but, you know, it s not as if the end result is you re lying to the american people. you are giving people false information, and you re fine with that. you have no moral problem with that. yeah. i think that was a little flippant on his part. i certainly wouldn t have made that comment. i don t think particularly if you re running for office, it s not a good
went to the beach with his children? you know, that just doesn t pass the smell test. i think that corey knew that there was something wrong with this. and so, i think that he wasn t being particularly forthcoming. anybody looking at this can see that there s something wrong with this, which is why you might try to pass it off on someone else who didn t want to do it because they recognized there was something wrong with it. senator, isn t it kind of a weird way to run for senate by admitting that you re happy to lie to the american people? i know he was phrasing it as lying to the media, lying to reporters, but, you know, it s not as if the end result is you re lying to the american people. you are giving people false information. and you re fine with that? you have no moral problem with that? yeah, i think that was a little flippant on his part. i certainly wouldn t have made that comment. i don t think, particularly, if you re running for office, it s not a good thing for him to
he was more or less alone. he wasn t being heard anyway, so i don t know if he was looking for the exit, but he certainly wasn t having an impact. and then the syria decision, which of course was later reversed, made it very easy for him because if there s anything that jim mattis believes, it s in sticking with your friends and fighting your enemies to the conclusion of the fight. a conclusion that leads to american victory. so when donald trump all of a sudden told him we re pulling all american troops out of the fight in syria against isis, that made it very, very easy for him to walk. jeffrey, one of the things i don t know and have never met general mattis, but i know donald trump well, good and bad experiences. but i get the impression that mattis is really committed to something and believes in something bigger than himself, basically committed to the country. did you get a sense in your conversations with him that he felt that donald trump really had no big picture goals,
serviceably running the government. look what obama did this. they had over 2,000 additional correction officers hired, not because he did or didn t like correction officers but because he dealt on a policy level with running the federal government. with donald trump, it s about 372. your view? my view is that there are shortfalls that are now systemic this these institutions. so when we examine why the standard of care is what it is, you can t have that conversation without evaluating what these budgets are, what these staffing issues aren that s exactly what this case is bringing to the forefront. we know the measurable shortfalls in this case with epstein already from the press. we know that he wasn t being monitored on the schedule that he should have been monitored. we know that people were moved in and out of his room. we also know that he ended up dead. i mean, that s a real issue.
you already had one incident where he tried to injure himself. now you have a separate incident. he wasn t being checked on for perhaps hours, maybe even more than that. that raises a significant question as far as what was going on here? why wasn t this more of a priority? and i think a lot of people have a lot of explaining to do. to whom though? bill barr said he is outraged. it s appalling. to the victims. what s actually being done? what is the price to pay? look, there could be, we know there are the inspector general is doing an investigation. we know the fbi is doing an investigation. i mean, theoretically if the fbi is investigating they re investigating crimes. so if they find that actions related to this reached a criminal threshold or criminal level either because of corruption or because people dropped the ball in such a severe way there theoretically could be criminal charges that come about in addition to whatever sort of civil floodgates are opened up as a resul