lower than him on that reading? no. it doesn t surprise me at all. if you remember how she did in the democratic primary. she got her clock cleaned. she wasn t a good candid, she wasn t popular. you can t make that go away overnight. so politically speaking though, if and when i think that joe biden runs, when that is known and known in the latest possible date, kamala harris will not have this handed to her. there will be a dozen or so democrats challenging kamala harris to be the democratic nominee, a lot of politics to come. martha: you re the man to help us. good to see. thanks, martha. martha: fox news went on a ride along with state troopers along the southern border and drew the attention of cartel members. stay tuned for that next. idn t t . it doesn t ring the bell on wall street.