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shifted to a posture of trying to, on its way out, broker a peace process. that failed. that ultimately wasted a lot of time. the wasting of time here is measured in real people s lives as we can see at the airport. the war was lost in december 2001. the war was lost when the united states decided it would go for unconditional surrender. spencer, whose new book is out now. you should pick it up. i learned so much from reading it. i can t wait to talk to about it on our podcast. thank you. thank you. coming up, house democrats end the standoff, delivering a crucial victory. why the shawl group of democrats who tried to tank it could be undermining their own mid-term political prospects next. n mid-m political prospects next allsta.

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