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Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 02:41:00

he was abducted off- the streets of putney in 1981. his partial remains were found in sussex woodland seven - months later in 1982. and our investigation is an investigation i into what we believe - is significant new information relating to a group of four, i possibly five, convicted child abusers who were operating| between south west london and sussex in or around - the late 70s and the 1980s. and this is an investigation, l though, that was kick started when i received a phone call from shaun keep, l who s sitting on my left here. he is, and i m going to bring him in in a minute, but i just want to say one thing first, which is, you know, haley and aric were describing their sources just now, and that was essentially sort of fragments, a lot of it fragments of digital information that they found online. but, you know, your source was actually much more old school. you ve talked about shaun, there was a tip off from shaun. that-s right. shaun gave me the tip off.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 02:43:00

and he explains in this podcast that he has a fascination, - just like the other offender. who we were speaking with, a sexual fascination - with boys of indian heritage. i do want to bring shaun keep in. thank you for sitting there so patiently. you re a former metropolitan police super duper detective, but you re the one who, you know, as colin said, you know, found the potential link originally to this previously unconnected crime. why go to a journalist? why go to colin? well, can i correct you on one point? yeah. i didn t find the link. it was a member of my team. but once that link was found, our team worked on it. and then after about two or three months, we took it to some senior officers in sussex police and a gold group was convened, as they do for major inquiries, etc. and all was going well. it looked to me that they were actually taking it seriously and going to do something about it. i then left sussex police, took another contract elsewhere and ifound out some months lat

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 00:45:00

you wanted to stay anonymous in terms of talking to colin, but then you ve decided to feature in the podcast and you re not anonymous any more. no, i m not. and i think at the end of the day, i m doing the right thing here. i knew that sussex police weren t investigating any further. i knew, therefore, that no damage could be done to the investigation because there wasn t any investigation going on. but i felt that there was a strong opportunity here to take this further and learn more about what happened to vishal, if someone would only devote some time and energy and effort. and that someone is colin. colin, yes. and colin, i was going to ask you because, you know, listeners to this, viewers might know you a bit more from your more sort of traditional style. i don t mean that in a pejorative way but, you know, your news investigations on tv, on radio, how did you find the podcast format? this is the first time i ve - done a podcast and we realised from the outset that by putting a po

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 00:43:00

who we were speaking with, a sexual fascination - with boys of indian heritage. i do want to bring shaun keep in. thank you for sitting there so patiently. you re a former metropolitan police super duper detective, but you re the one who, you know, as colin said, you know, found the potential link originally to this previously unconnected crime. why go to a journalist? why go to colin? well, can i correct you on one point. yeah. i didn t find the link. it was a member of my team. but once that link was found, our team worked on it. and then after about two or three months, we took it to some senior officers in sussex police and a gold group was convened, as they do for major inquiries, etc. and all was going well. it looked to me that they were actually taking it seriously and going to do something about it. i then left sussex police, took another contract elsewhere and ifound out some months later that they had. ..all they had done was gone round and knocked on doors of some of the su

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 00:46:00

of england. so i think he thought that i was equipped i with the right type of skills. and it was.my sourcesl became and the people who drove my investigation forward are the survivors| and the victims of sexual abuse who were abused by this - group of offenders. and they, as shaun told me at the outset of this - investigation, they would be the ones who would be able| to inform me and give me really key bits of information. - and it is their courage| and bravery that really helped me drive forward this investigation. - but a podcast, i ve really enjoyed it. l it s been.it s beenl a roller coaster ride, a three year investigation with riveting terms. - with riveting turns. and i really want everybody to listen to it because it- could solve a child murder. well, let s hear a bit of it now. this is when you confront a convicted british paedophile in sri lanka, who was already on the run from another investigation and who you think has questions to answer. ijust have to ask you once a

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