this fraud, like you cannot have any kind of certainty about this situation. the facts we know is that donald trump has sounded people out about th chief of staff role. so has jared kushner. we know that. those are two facts. is it imminent he s going to get his head chopped off? i don t know, i don t think so. there s been a bit of a we ll see how it goes the next couple of weeks. we ll be watching. thank you for being with us. thank you. we re going to take a quick break. when we come back, we re not going to take a break, that was entirely me freelansing and looking for a midmorning snack. forget what i just said. the report in the washington post is taking a closer look at steve bannon and his, quote, multi-media machine and how it paid him millions of dollars. joining me is shane bodberg, thank you for being with us. most people know about breitbart, but, in fact, steve bannon s been in the world of