go through with the investigations so we had to force them to. you know, that s wow. if i heard that on a wiretap as a prosecutor, you know, if we were monitoring a phone and heard that, our jaws would have dropped. because you don t usually get sort of admissions that explicit. and again, i think this just knocks down this argument that there s no quid pro quo, which again you don t need, but now you have giuliani in a moment when he was unguarded and did want know someone was listening saying, essentially admitting explicitly admitting they forced ukraine to do these investigations, these sham investigations. all right, well you and i now have both for the first times in our careers said butt dial on tv. we ve somehow saved carol s dignity and she hasn t had to