and i had mimic and my mother was a lover of film. loved mothers and television and performers. and so it was always in my psyche. no one ever said i couldn t do it. so when i got to san diego, i was working with lots of different people. and then i met another guy years later whose company was coming through san diego doing stuff. and i liked what they did. and he said well we are from sfransan francisco, we are up there, you should come up and work with us. and i was like, well, maybe i ll try that. and i did. and you and your daughter went up there? yeah, we did. and how did you end up in east germany. you spent a lot of time there. well, we went back and forth a lot.