we get a revised disclosure and this has happened with jared kushner as well. you know, at a minimum this is just, you know, gross negligence with respect to the kind of care and diligence that somebody should use for these sorts of disclosures. by the way, it s hurting them more than anybody else. this story has dragged on for months because of exactly this act. but i would say and i just make this observation to you, alex. anybody who is senior in the cia or the nsa or in the military that did with their it s called an sf-86 form, with that form that you use to get a top secret security clearance, anybody in the government who treated the sf-86 the way jared kushner has done, not only would that individual not get a security clearance, there s a good chance that individual would lose their job. so i hope the white house will reflect on that. all right. you might have missed that intel committee deposition yesterday because i know that you introduced a bill on congress on thursday a
way donald trump ran his businesses. it s a family affair. he has long-term relationships with some of his lawyers as well. hard to imagine information wasn t changing hands in that arrangement. right, exactly. ask we re told that a lot of this strategy was happening behind the scenes. certainly after the fbi it turns out cnn made a phone call. i made a fong call to jared kushner s lawyers on the 26th, in which i informed them that i was aware of the adjustment to the sf-86 form. so what happens behind the scenes is a lot of strot jazzing about exactly how to deal with this. because they know the day is coming about how to exactly manage this news. and the instinct that seems to kick in is not to disclose, despite the advice of other people of let s get this house, rip the bandaid off. instead what their instinct was to partially tell the story and tell it falsely. their first statement was false.
his lawyers. with almost to the fs-86, there are either more contacts with government officials, arrest more for whatever reason he didn t necessarily include. his cooperation with his lawyers, it is hard to say. this story is not about jared kushner and his sf 86. it is about whether he understood significance with all the meetings with the government officials and whether as the e-mails from don jr. indicate, whether or not the trump campaign, that would be paul manafort, don junior, everyone else, understood what the russian government was doing and cooperated in some way. it begs the question, what was
the sopgs to expose themselves. that is the option. right now, the slow drip, drip, drip, is not playing out well. the president is by all accounts, frustrated by this whole thing. if they are innocent, that would be the obvious thing to do. each day this goes by. each day there is a new revelation, it gets worse. i ve talked about the legal peril that jared kushner finds himself in. either he has a giant memory problem that he should have examined or that he has hired massively incompetent lawyers, i don t think that s true. or he s been hiding things from his lawyers. with almost to the fs-86, there are either more contacts
to 18 usc 1001. that s the false statement sections of the criminal code. that s the section that gets most people into trouble in washington. it s rarely the scandal, it s often the aftermath. it s when people make false statements. they try to be too clever by half, or they omit things. people get charged under that. and as a criminal defense attorney, i have to say, a 1001 charges are the ones you really want least to see in an indictment, because they tend to be very easy to prove in a courtroom. having said that, most emissions on sf-86s do not result in prosecutions. it s usually administrative measures, particularly the denial of the clearance, which is unlikely, obviously, in this case. richard painter, what do you say to those who are saying that jared kushner shouldn t have a security clearance or it should be looked at. well, he has had an awful lot of contacts with the russians, and in a lot of different contexts, it seems like he has the wrong job.