Ruling is the highest condemnation. the second president setting up part of this case is that south africans have taken the case under the genocide convention and the genocide convention of course came from the persecution of the jewish people after the second world war, was agreed in 1948, so the scale of the accusations and the gravity of this case it really couldn t be higher. the kind of level at which the stakes of which we are talking about and that is reflected very much in the arguments before by south africa today, really couldn t be higher and they have talked about how the sanctity and the procedure of rest each of the un as a whole and the ability to respond to violations, grave violation of international law, is really what is at stake here. so we hope that an order by the icj would have the gravity to effect change.