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Transcripts for BBCNEWS BBC News 20211103 14:25:00

honourable gentleman.- consensus. i will give way to the honourable gentleman. because the leader of honourable gentleman. because the leader of the honourable gentleman. because the leader of the house honourable gentleman. because the leader of the house is honourable gentleman. because the leader of the house is so honourable gentleman. because the leader of the house is so utterly - leader of the house is so utterly detached from the reality of most working mps, could ijust acknowledged to him that most of us don t need to get paid £100,000 to don t need to get paid £100,000 to do thejob we don t need to get paid £100,000 to do the job we are already paid for. we think there is something endangering our residents lives we do it for free. endangering our residents lives we do it forfree. i’m endangering our residents lives we do it for free- do it for free. i m glad, that point was so fatuous. do it for free. i m glad, that point was so fatuous. i do it for free

Transcripts for BBCNEWS BBC News 20211103 14:19:00

recommendation that mps are discussing now but what has since happened is that conservatives who are sympathetic to owen paterson had tabled an amendment to that to try and change it so it would put the suspension on hold and set up a new committee which would look at the whole disciplinary process again. and the key issue they want to focus on is that owen paterson, who has always said he did not do anything wrong, has questioned the process saying there is no right of appeal for an mp who is found to have breached the rules and there is no appeal against the punishment and that he was not allowed to have witnesses who would have spoken in his defence interviewed as part of that, so what this amendment is looking at is whether or not that sort of process should be introduced via the committee and the government has swung behind the amendment and told the tory mps they should vote for it but the reason it s so controversial is that it is coming back off the individual case and it

Transcripts for BBCNEWS BBC News 20211103 14:20:00

would put on hold owen paterson s suspension to see whether he should have a right of appeal and we ve heard some of that in the debate so far and we heard jess phillips asking if we would be in this position if it was a labour mp at the centre of this and jacob rees mogg said yes, he believed it would, so this is the issue, because it s pegged to an individual case, there are a lot of mps are unhappy that this is the way it has been chosen to try and make changes to the way that parliament works and you heard jacob rees mogg saying it s because of the volume of complaints and the straw that broke the camels back, but also how the debate and some of the about that. so there is a vote in the mid afternoon. we will listen a bit more and talk to you around the time of the vote we will be back with you. thank you for now. let s head back to the chamber and will be interesting to hear from to the chamber and will be interesting to hearfrom bernard jenkin. life, it is the commissioner who wo

Transcripts for BBCNEWS BBC News 20211103 14:14:00

worse position and further find himself in an appeals process? he is absolutely right. himself in an appeals process? he is absolutely right. my himself in an appeals process? he is absolutely right. my right absolutely right. my right honourable absolutely right. my right honourable friend - absolutely right. my right honourable friend was . absolutely right. my right - honourable friend was interrupted absolutely right. my right honourable friend was interrupted in the course of his speech by an intervention and he was about to say something regarding the question of contested cases which is right at the heart of this issue, because report after report, including the joint committee on privilege, has said that in such cases, criteria for fairness has to be applied stop this investigator e panel, as he so eloquently stated, does provide for such a state of affairs. it was not applied by the committee in this case. ., ., , ., ., case. i m gratefulto my honourable friend he

Transcripts for BBCNEWS BBC News 20211103 14:51:00

of what is it was uncontested by the commissioner and the standards committee. the issue is whether it would have been done better as was indicated by my right honourable friend the primer is the employment is questions to have said that he held one view, the commission and committee held another, he now recognises that what they felt was reasonable, and he is sorry to have had a view that has caused this upset, and the difficulty is sorry to have had a view that has caused this upset, and the difficulties to all of us. i still hope that what i in that situation i would have a sense, basically, to accept that there are views other than my own and i should not see things always with my own justification but rather than see them the way people outside this house and some insight would see them. as for a decision on whether the contents of my right honourable friend for south northamptonshire cosmic amendment is correct i recognise that what the member for harrogate said, about the 2003 r

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