documents that he claims are protected by attorney/client privilege. joining me capitol hill correspondent, allie vitaly, host of the talking feds podcast harry lipman and professor at the university of alabama law school, joyce vance. good to see all of you. joyce, for everybody who witnessed what happened on january 6th and thought this isn t legal, does that development that we re hearing get us anywhere in terms of actually seeing criminal charges? so, what this brief suggests is that the committee ultimately will make a referral to the justice department on these charges. there s a conspiracy to defraud united states charge and an obstruction of justice charge. and it s important, chris, to note that this brief is a serious legal endeavor. the lawyers who filed it are not the cracken lawyers. this includes former white house lawyers, former u.s. attorneys,