government-run plan? on the issues of health care and immigration, the candidates leaning left as msnbc s first read puts it, most democrats still loaf obama, but their top 2020 presidential candidates for the most part have policies that go well beyond what the 44th president ever proposed. our big question we re asking today, how is the democratic political world different after the first debates? joining me, nbc news correspondent mike memory, senior director of progressive programming at sirius xm, maxwell. spokesperson for justice democrats, wally cha heed and msnbc political analyst susan del percio. so much to get to. we re waiting to hear from joe biden so stand by for that. ser lena, david fromme writes this in atlantic today. the big doubt about biden, can he cope with the ferocious malignancy that is donald trump.
clearly the president is listening to him. this decision to move out of the paris climate accord the clearly to appeal to the base. bannon is winning right now. he s listening to what bannon is saying and getting out to really mollify the base. we talked about the fact that bannon could be losing his job, on his way out. and now we re saying bannon has regained support of the white house, the only one that hasn t been connected so far to the russia investigation. so a lot of talk surrounding bannon, to say the least. ser lena, there s a lot of fluff pieces out there, and there s a theory as to why, some observers asking if she s the white house leaker. it s definitely someone who likes ivanka trump very, very much. it could be her. it could be people close to her. it s quite disturbing because i
could there have been some sort of coordination there. or at least, you know, a blind eye to what the russians were doing because you wonder, why are you talking to the russians and why are you trying to set up a secret line of communication on the heels of them attacking our democracy. the other issue that played out, to ser lena s point, rick, private server, hillary clinton, private server. the home brewed, home cooked thing in the basement in chappaqua. did the trump folks think they d be able to get away with putting something under the same roof and get away with it? i have no doubt the post reporting ambassador kislyak did say to superiors jared kushner wanted to set up a back channel of communications. in fact, kislyak said he wanted to do it in the russian embassy
well-regarded investigator, somebody who can get to the bottom of this, tell the american people what happened, when it happened and who was involved. ser lena, joes makes a great point about different headlines coming out, especially attributed to leakers, white house sources in all of this. isn t that the point, especially when it comes to the russian probe and president trump saying to sergey kislyak and foreign minister lavrov that comey was crazy and a nut job, it reveals a type of deception ha is potentially taking place in the people s house as opposed to a disruption in politics. americans can handle a disruption. it s the deception that s the problem. i think one of the things that stood out to me in terms of the new york times report about his conversation in the oval office, it came the day after he fired former director comey and essentially is telling the russians the real reasoning behind why he fired former director comey, and that was