intelligence you need without using enhanced interrogation? that would be wonderful if you could talk somebody into it or give them drugs or bribe them. if you can t, you got to have that one little thing. and they also try other methods first, they don t just jump to it in one second. so torture, that dick cheney points out is also having to make the decision to jump to your deaths on the 80th floor and that you re never going to see your family again. that s the real definition of torture, not the enhanced interrogation techniques. allow me to finish this, bob, i haven t said a word. here s where we are right now, we re back to september 12th, 2001, where the day after the towers came down, everyone was on their toes, they were vigilant, they see something, say something, call a cop and the cops went after, they asked someone, taking a picture of a building, what are you doing? i m going to confiscate that
intel briefings in 20027. also what he said too how long would it have taken? now today in 2014 we would say you know what we should have just waited and however long it should have taken we should have just waited. again but going whack to the context of september 12th, 2001, we all thought the next attack was coming in a week. we all thought the next attack compromised values at that point, core american values to ensure a little bit more safety was not being questioned by anyone across the political spectrum. if you wrote an op-ed like that you would have been killed by everybody. we need to put ourselves back in that mindset. it s not that like these people were abhorrent beasts americans were there. it s not like it was any different in world war ii when fdr had internment camps which was far more offensive, when
criminals. give me $40 million. i can investigate the fire bombing of dresden. the decisions we made to drop atomic bombs. war is ugly. you know what? the thing is we made mistakes. you know what? every country makes mistakes. we need to learn from them and that s what s so depressing about this report is it doesn t allow us to learn because it s so partisan. listen i m a guy and mika you know we ve talked about this for some time. i am i think more along harold s line than donny s line. i said for some time i remember what it was like on september 12th, 2001. i remember what these men and women were told. and so even coming in from that point of view we got to do to keep america safe. there s excesses here that s disturbing and we should learn
every country makes mistakes. that s what s so depressing about this report. it doesn t allow us to learn because it s so partisan. we talked about this for some time. i am i think more along i remember what it was like september 12th, 2001. i remember what these men and women were told. even coming in from that point of view, we ve got to do what we need to do to keep america safe. there are some excesses here that are disturbing. we should learn from them. dianne feinstein has taken that opportunity away from us. the senate intel committee has taken that opportunity away from us. because they produce such a biting partisan report. which also doesn t bring up the fact that dianne feinstein was briefed on this and she didn t
well let the record speak for itself, the last 12 1/2 years new yorkers have set up they have 1,000 police officers dedicated to fighting terrorism. other cities have two, three, four five cops assigned to it. new york city has 1,000. we are the number one target in the country, if not the world. if anyone said on september 12th 2001 that we wouldn t be successfully attacked again, i don t think anyone would believe it. if you look at the whole speck tl spectrum of programs, they ve worked. you have to look at the entire network of programs that have been set up. and they do work. and i believe they have tremendous respect for constitutional rights. congressman, to the point that you raised earlier, i mean, the unit is being disbanded in terms of what it s been doing since september 11. and we should all understand the fear and paranoia that was