had settled the charges by way of a plea agreement. he s gone to trial. he s told a story that this judge very well may not believe, and this judge is the sentencer in this case. so when it comes down to sentencing, if he s found guilty on any of these counts, the judge is going to say you wasted the court s resources with a bunch of lies, you ve wasted the prosecution s resources with a bunch of lies, and you deserve to be punished. so that possibility of probation is out the window. sarah azari, i appreciate your expertise. thank you for being with us. good to be with you. all eyes are on speaker nancy pelosi facing growing pressure from the progressive democrats in her caucus to punish congresswoman lauren boebert for bigoted and racist remarks. why the speaker is hesitating next.
recommendation? so the judge found based on pleadings that were filed that there are aggravating circumstances here. that means it s not you ll forgive me for saying this, but it s not a garden variety second degree or third-degree murder, that there are factors above and beyond what you would normally find present in a murder that make this even more heinous, for instance, committing this murder in the presence of young children. and so the judge will consider those factors as he decides what sentence he should give. he has a lot of discretion here. and judge cahill is known. he has a reputation for being a moderate sentencer. but this is a case that may call for something more. one of the big issues tomorrow is whether we will see derek chauvin try to defend himself. he has the opportunity to do what s called allocution at sentencing, to make a statement. he s not been a very sympathetic figure so far in these proceedings, so there s a legitimate question about whether he could do
into recruiters. that s how he perpetrated this massive scheme. at one point i just want to make that we heard at the press conference, it s about the victims. one of the reasons floated for this sweetheart deal back in april, was that they had issues with victims credibility, victim blaming and shaming. i don t even know what the thought process is there. that s not going to cut it anymore. i think what you heard the southern district saying is these victims are victims. regardless of whatever was going on in their lives, they were particularly vulnerable to abuse. you know the judge that is assigned. judge berman no relation to the u.s. attorney jeffrey berman. i ve tried cases in front of him. he is very fair. he will give the defendant a fair trial. he has a good meter for right and wrong. he s a tough sentencer. he s not interested in sob stories. if you commit horrific acts like
that question and points to yes. the guidelines suggest she can go up to ten years based on his overall conduct, in other words, averting to the eastern district of virginia conduct. would i have thought though she would have tried to keep it independent and would be she s a tough sentencer but would be looking at something like seven or eight years. but i just do want to point out, it was an egregious departure but the system is not done with paul manafort and probably never will be. there is not just this coming up, also as you say the possibility of new york, three other states including rhode island and illinois, could potentially indict him and i think are beginning to look at that hard because of this sentence. is he by no means out of the woods. phil, one of the things that president trump seized on today as the most predictable thing in the world, besides like the sun rising in the east, was the notion trump would seize on the notion the judge said there was no collusion. i
have been indicted along the way who certainly could shed light on whatever other schemes were in play. barbara, what deference do either of these federal judges in the two junctions give to each other, or are they really separate issues, separate cases? well, it s very interesting. judge ellis goes first in the eastern district of virginia. he s a little bit of a wild card and is known as a somewhat lenient sentencer. it wouldn t surprise me if he departs below that 19 to 24 year guideline range. i submit because of implicit bias of judges who favor the wealthy and powerful, i wouldn t be surprised to see a sentence below that guideline range. that gives judge jackson in washington, d.c. some option. it gives her the option of either imposing her time concurrently, at the same time, or consecutively.