0 a little further detail on that, the decision was made this morning he just revealed, asked when did the president give the order to shoot it down? this morning. john: talk about burying the lede, talks about all of this other stuff, and then a reporter says, oh, by the way, did you shoot something down? oh, yes. here are the details. my gosh. martha: grade to be with you come have a great weekend. i m sandra smith. martha: elsey and monday, thank you for joining us, the story with martha continues to breaking news. it s actually a trace, good afternoon, and trace gallagher in for martha maccallum, the story is a bombshell as we can train new breaking news, about to go to the pentagon as a white house confirms a high altitude object was shot down over alaska today. though there is no confirmation on who owns the object. we don t know if it is state owned or corporate owns, we just don t know that right now, mainly because we spotted this thing at night. in a moment, repu
television. yeah, surprised when he made the comments because i know for a fact when you look at what mike pompeo said on tv and robert o brien, john bolton, none of us ever heard about the balloons. john: and you were in the daily briefings. i was in every single presidential daily briefing, either there, or got the written report. i don t know where they are getting the information from or digging the information up. but it s clearly a lack of something going on and john: it s a lack of something. where the president needs to call in mark milley and lloyd austin and explain how was this missed. when you look at the sensor packages the balloon that happened this last weekend, it s kind of hard to miss the sensor package, and i ve heard two stories. john: size of a regional jet or school bus.
chinese could be trying to gather, and the fact that there are buttons that have been seen over other parts of the world. where do you think it likely could have been launched from? what kind of data would have been gleaned possibly from a balloon like this, and your expert opinion? yeah, i m not sure where it was launched from. it will be curious to learn more. it seems very clear that there was some sort of plan to launch multiple balloons. i think that s what s remarkable, at least from what we know. this is not an isolated there are others out there. it seems to me that there would be some sort of data or information that they d collect that was maybe alternative sensors, things that they thought they needed to use, a different kind of sensor package for. it s a little confounding, to be honest, the more worried about. it why they thought a balloon 60, 65,000 feet would not be detected. it is not a small objects. i think that really speaks to why they took such caution to actua
if his military generals came in and said don t shoot it down he should have said go to the backyard and take off your rank. he is the commander-in-chief. he should have shot it down. he should have protected u.s. interest he didn t do it. jesse: can he overrule the generals, he is the commander-in-chief. you are saying the debris line is bogus because it floats down and lands and not going to blow into smithereens and take out a small town. no. i don t believe that at all that information is coming from the same people that said kyiv, ukraine was going to fall within three days. that s not true. we have shown before when we have tried to shoot down a balloon that they deflate slowly. so take it out, get the sensor package. hand it to secretary blinken. have him go back over to china. hand it to president xi and say here s your package back. thank you very much, don t ever do it again. there is nothing in that package right now because it s all transmitted back. so there s nothing
they re going to use the excuse we do not to harm anybody or hurt anybody. look, actually the horses left the barn. all the information is scooped up by china it s a lot of information because that is a very slow loitering device. both are very, very good for that. but they get if you think about it is much much better than the satellite that is orbiting, a lot better. mike: how critical will be for the data collection equipment to the bottom of the equipment to be preserved so american officials can study it to see exactly what was being sent back to beijing? mike that is the reason why that carter hall is out there. what it is designed to do is recover the balloon, the package the sensor package once he gets on the water. my concern is can they get to the package? that information is, the pick up the sensor package clearly they can extract the information what kind of packages out there that the chinese has news but it is a