aggressively working to undermine the kind of international order that in many ways benefits everybody. in chinese surveillance in the united states has been in the news. the spy balloon. there was a story that came out about china potentially using cuba to spy on the u.s. as a base of operations. does china need to be confronted on this? what if anything can the biden administration accomplish really, other than simply saying, please stop doing this? with the spy balloon, that was a clear violation of u.s. sovereignty. if the u.s. had floated a spy balloon like that over china, they would have shot it down immediately. the cuba issue is a little tougher. certainly, we don t like china having listening posts in cuba just like we don t like them in taiwan. and we are outside of chinese territory, we are in a sense spying on them. and that s what countries do.