i m ari melber in for nicolle and i ll anchor for the next three hours right now with a lot of news breaking out of new york as the d.a. alvin bragg moves forward with two witnesses who faced this grand jury today, robert costello a legal adviser to that key witness we all know about, michael cohen. he s testified today at the request of trump s legal team. under new york law a person who is expected to be indicted which in this case may or may not be donald trump but in an abundance of fairness, that individual can request a witness appear for them before this grand jury finishes its work. so that s part of what we re following on this big breaking news day. today cohen also on hand, this weekend he said he would be back today to address what costello says making him the rebuttal witness and this, today, is his third appearance before the grand jury. so, that alone makes all of this a major day and probe that is quite near deciding whether or not to indict donald trump. so,
i m sure you re familiar with the idea out there where people say, why has it taken this long? was has he gotten away with so much, and, yet, there are many examples in life and in law where the thing you slip on is not the nuclear code, it s the banana peel. it s not the triple felony, it s the misdemeanor. it s not in al capone s case terrible mafia activity and murder but tax evasion. i m curious given your work on the sort of guts and math of this how you see what may be shaping up to be a case that will in some sense boil down to math and lies if charged? right. you know, i just first want to say because just watching garrett outside the courthouse and just reminiscent, i ve covered a lot of trials at that courthouse and they can get intense just with the media out there. i covered the trial of shelly silver, the head of the new york assembly, and that media crush was just incredible.