payments compared to huge pollution cuts on the other side of the ledger. quick last question, 30 seconds left, they say that they are gonna hit 40% reduction by 2013 carbon emissions, is that a number you think they can hit based on this bill? absolutely! we already have several independent analyses that say that is true. energy innovations as we can get 40% below those pollution numbers, road improve as well. and that is going to put us on path to meeting president biden s goal of cutting carbon pollution in half this decade. and that is what we need to tackle the climate crisis. and that is the kind of good news that we need on this tonight. leah stokes professor of political science, and environmental science, at the university of california santa barbara, thank you so much for your time tonight. thank you for giving us that good news. thanks for having me. we have one more story to get to tonight, just when you thought sergeant republican members of congress couldn t go lo
we have to get 50 senators to vote for this thing. and we have to be clear eyed. we can t miss the force for the trades here because literally the fourth will burn down if we do. what we are talking about here is optional lease sales that companies can choose to buy into. and there are also going to be royalty increases alongside those lease sales. so it is possible that we are gonna get fewer companies wanting to actually do those leases. and as we get more people buying electric vehicles, and using heat pumps, that demand for oil and gas, it s going to fall. so it s not ideal, it s not perfect, but what we are talking about here is a really small emissions pay penalty and payments compared to huge pollution cuts on the other side of the ledger. quick last question, 30 seconds left, they say that they are gonna hit 40% reduction by 2013 carbon emissions, is that a number you think they can hit based on this bill? absolutely! we already have several independent analyses that say th