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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 03:27:00

going? well, you could make that argument. let me suggest a new idea here. the newest defendant, carlos de oliveira, is someone who clearly is not a sophisticated person, not a wealthy person. donald is paying whatever lawyer is going to represent him in the case, at least so far. but you know, people could donate to a fun for him if he decides to turn states evidence. and just like you see gofundme campaigns, and he wouldn t have to rely on donald s lawyers, who as senator mccaskill pointed out, are not likely, despite the requirements of the professional code of ethics, to put the interests of this low level employee ahead of donald trump s interests. well, clare, what about saving face, right? trump loves to surround himself with 24 karat gold of

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe Weekend 20240604 10:46:00

urgency about what is going to happen in this next cycle, when people start airing commercials of candidates speaking words they never said. what would your legislation do to prevent that? and is there any sense of urgency in congress to move quickly, at least on the front of having to disclose ar is used in political advertising? thank, you senator mccaskill for, question so nothing in this a.i. commission bill preclude congress from acting in discreet areas of a i regulation, i also note that there is a eye that can counter bad a.i.. so for example, you have some companies working on a.i. that can authenticate original videos, and original images, so that could be something that campaigns could use, in addition i do support legislation that requires this, disclosure on ads and social media and so, on so next time for example if you see a pro trump ad, it might just say at the bottom paid for by the

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe Weekend 20240604 10:45:00

you have to ask what would we want to care about that. first, because it does have a province that might cause such as a facial recognition, which is a basic technology, but it is biased towards people with darker skin, and if you deploy that nationwide, law enforcement agencies, you will have a huge against minorities will be misidentified at higher rates. so, legislation or guarding those. the example of carmaking house. congressman claire mccaskill, here are those concerns about political campaigns, as you will know, the most powerful weapon in a political campaign is video of the candidate speaking in their own words. many people do not do town halls, during congress, just because they are afraid that they will get them on film in a moment where they say something awkward, whether misspeak, and it can be used against them later. i have really a sense of

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 03:05:00

when the judge is considering them, that stops the clock. there s a variety of other reasons why these cases ultimately generally take much longer than that. so it s a practical matter. she s doing what she s supposed to do by setting an early trial date. but we should expect this trial to be quite some time in the future, at the very earliest, you know, maybe a year from now in 2024. let s talk about trump s strategy and his mindset, renato. i want to share what former senator, claire mccaskill said about trump earlier today. i think he s just going for a hung jury. i think he has convinced himself, and maybe he has even gone over this with his lawyers. that he only needs one juror to say i love donald trump, i believe donald trump. i will not find a former president criminally responsible. first, he s going to press this judge for delay. and that s when she ll show her stripes. how often she likes to delay, and whether or not she pushes

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 03:06:00

them to get to trial. do you agree with that, renato? i think senator mccaskill is on to something. i think that the primary strategy for donald trump so he can either pardon himself or squash the investigation against him. i think a secondary strategy, i agree, with senator mccaskill, is a delay. and to try to poison the jury pool. because frankly, when you look at actual legal defenses, he doesn t have many left. we had that interview with brett barr yesterday, he was basically alluding to the only quasi-defense he has left, which is that he thought it was all legal. he thought he had the right to do whatever you wanted with these documents. realistically, unless a juror is in love with donald trump and is inclined to just believe anything he has to say, i don t think that the jurors are going to take that very seriously. more and more likely, he absolutely knew it was illegal. but he doesn t believe that rules apply to him. katie, jack smith made it clear, he wants a speedy

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