does recognize different needs that people have. it s common sense and we do that. and the reality is around here nothing goes anywhere unless it s bipartisan. that is just the arithmetic. the math of the place we have to start from this that basis. i m an independent and deb is a republican and we think this is this is working people having some paid family leave and supporting employers who want to provide that, particularly wage hourly workers and that is who really has been left out of this conversation. absolutely. that is where this is going. we think this is time. we are i think the only industrialized country in the world that doesn t have some measure. paid family leave and i think we have come up with a plan that makes sense and ought to appeal across the aisle if people, in fact, want to get something done. willie? senator fisher, it s willie geist. i ll read for our audience what is in the strong family act. tax credit for firms that offer
with regards to this issue and wants to work on it and reach out. i agree with that and i know angus does too. we think this is a plan that is going to work. i would like to see him more engaged on issues. i was just going to say, generally, i think that is a criticism, but last summer, we did a bipartisan bill on student loans. he got very involved in that and was very helpful in putting that over the line at the end. so i think this is one we haven t discussed it with the white house, but it fits in with the overall priorities talking about trying to provide some additional workplace fedex flexibility to families and i think we can build some momentum here and carry them along with us. i certainly hope so. hopefully. as someone who took part in the working family summit, it is certainly part of their core beliefs and goals. so you would think. and senators deb fisher and angus king, thank you very much for sharing with us on the show this morning. thank you.
deb fisher, we will start with you. tell us what you are trying to get through here and get done. great to be with us this morning. it s just been such a pleasure to work with senator king on a number of pieces of legislation but we are very excited about this one, because it is a balanced approach. it recognizes and respects that families have unique needs and we need to help them with that, offer a good plan, but it also balances that with the cost of doing business that employers face. and how did the two of you come together to work on this? and how do you think anything will happen actually in washington that gets you to where you want to go with the working families, the strong families act? nothing seems to be happening there. no, no. but as you said earlier, the surf and turf caucus, we try to work on common sense solution that are out there. how is this going to play out? we think it should be a very easy bill to pass because it
saying you didn t do it. amazon saying maybe we didn t then but we re doing it now. but the ftc is still going hard for them. and what s interesting about this because people at home are thinking about how this happened and it might have happened to people watching the ftc has already gone after this, this issue of companies making easy money off of parents with apple. apple ended up having to provide $32.5 million in refunds. they had to make changes in their system, right, because i guess the way they d had it was there was a 15-minute window to make purchases so kids could zip in after their parents and buy all sorts of things. and apple had to pay a lot of money. apple may be the one throwing o other people under the bus? the important thing here is what the politicians are saying. take for example senator fisher of nebraska whose written to the ftc basically saying stop this now. this is stifling innovation. mistakes were made.
increased and some tax revenue is raised and some tax increases and spendsing cuts are available and there s some possibility, and some compromise. and something like that. so right now we re in these as we are watching all of the time, the posturing stages. i will not negotiate and in reality, everyone has to negotiate and there is room for, promyself here. we re hearing fresh voices, jonathan and freshman senator fisher, speaking out and calling for spending cuts and i want to play it for everybody. take a listen. the president will soon ask congress to raise the nation s debt limit again. i believe we can increase the borrowing limit without increasing the out of control spending. to cut spending we must find ways to reduce the cost of social security, medicare and medicaid. the primary drivers of our national debt. so jonathan, do you think the boehner rule will go into effect