that was why governor walker exempted them. in other words, they will have collective bargaining rights but the other unions won t? that s right. i want to point out collective bargaining rights are very fiscally oriented. if you want to have an efficient school district and an efficient county and efficient city, if you want to pull your workers in a more efficient fashion you cannot every time have to go to the union. let s go to the other senator. let s go the democratic senator. tim carpenter is somewhere in illinois. you don t have to tell me. it s bears country, so i assume that s illinois. how long is this going to go on? how long can you stay in illinois collecting your pay as a member of the state senate out there and not report for duty, if you will, in the state capital? capitol? how long can you morally do this? can you do it forever? we ll do it as long as it s necessary that the governor and senators come to their sense. i m dealing with thousands of
favoring the unions that backed him? absolutely. the senator and governor has gone ahead and been leading a misinformation campaign. distorting facts a lot on issues and it s very frustrating. the governor has had endorsements pulled back from him because of his stance on a lot of issues. he sold people a bill of goods when he was running for election. okay. let me go back to the republican senator. sorry we didn t get to talk there. is there going compromise of a couple of years duration where the unions get suspended in their total rights to bargain collectively for a couple of years while you cool off on this thing rather than permanently denial of a right to collectively bargain across the board. is there a compromise there or not? i want to point out we ve already had a compromise. there was a compromise in which we heard the workers last wednesday night and on the joint finance committee, we changed this bill different from its original form.
planes and african militia men are being used to crush the protesters. hundreds have died. some of libya s ambassadors have resigned around the world and believe it or not, moammar gadhafi gadhafi s whereabouts are unknown. let me finish tonight with what the battle in wisconsin is about. let s bring in wisconsin. let s begin there. we re joined by two state senators. tim carpenter is a democrat that fled the capital and the state. i want to start with tim carpenter. are you on the radio or the telephone. i m actually here live on the tv camera. good. i can t see you. i know you are there. senator thanks for joining us. leapt me ask you about this. why do you think this fight is going on? what is this fight really about in your state? well, this is a historic right to stand up for working people in the state of wisconsin. we were the state, first state in the nation to have collective bargaining and for us to go back to the middle ages of treating
we have compromised. we cannot cave in all together. senator carpenter, unions are willing to give on pensions, co-pay, medical co-pay, as long as they re willing to continue bargain collectively, is that your understanding? senator carpenter? that s absolutely correct. i could leave illinois right now and leave this interview and drive to wisconsin and vote on the bill. the governor says we need this fiscal bill to balance our budget to june 30th. this is nonfiscal policy that attacks working people in working conditions so i don t know what world senator grothman is living in button lie but the only compromise they ve made is with themselves. governor walker will not talk to us. they have basically threatened us. everything imaginable. we re going to do everything possible to stand up for working people. so our viewers get the facts right. is that correct that one issue separating your two sides, the
you think loses? across the ocean the revolution in libya is spreading. capital city of tripoli is descending into chaos and reports that helicopter, war planes and african militia men are being used to crush the protesters. some ambassadors have resign and moammar gadhafi s whereabouts are unknown. leapt me finish tonight with what the battle in wisconsin is about. let s bring in wisconsin. let s begin there. we re joined by two state senators. tim carpenter is a democrat that fled the capital and the state. i want to start with tim carpenter. are you on the radio or the telephone. where censor. i m actually here live on the tv camera. good. i can t see you. i know you are there. senator thanks for joining us. leapt me ask you about this. why do you think this fight is going on? what is this fight really about in your state? well, this is a historic