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goes will the chief justice have over the process? so the chief justice needs to just call balls and strikes like most judges should do when they are sitting on the bench. they should make rulings based upon the senate rules of procedure. those exist. they re not just things that are theoretically in existence. i want to emphasize a key point. unlike in a civil case or a criminal case, there are clearly defined burdens of proof. in a criminal case it is to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt. however, in a senate impeachment trial, there is no defined aburden of proof. each individual senator has to rely upon his or her conscience to make a determination as to whether or not a case has been made against donald trump in this case in terms of whether or not it meets that violation of high crimes and misdemeanors. so the absence of a defined burden of proof can pose a serious challenge to be able to achief an actual conviction in the senate should donald trump

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