open, closed hearing, but what s interesting here is the timing. the republicans want to move ahead with this. they recognize that some want to hear more, but they think they could maybe even still have this vote on thursday. the democrats, they re in no rush. that seems to be the dynamic right now. let s get over to capitol hill and see where the dynamics lie at this moment. sunlen, what are you hearing from lawmakers at this moment? well, there s certainly a fast moving dynamic, to your point about in the next few hours, they re likely to have a lot of movement. we re out here outside of chuck grassley s office. he faces an incredible amount of pressure at this moment, as these allegations have come forward against brett kavanaugh. what his committee will do next. and certainly, mounting pressure on him to potentially delay the committee vote that as of this moment is still scheduled for thursday out of that committee. he just got a letter from the all democrats on the senate