pretty quickly if the president doesn t give a full explanation. i think you will see subpoenas. president trump, as you know, he s accusing the former fbi director of lying under oath. that s perjury. you can go to jail if convicted and also dangling the prospect of those recordings if there are recordings to prove it. how does that refusal to release those tapes impact from your perspective, senator, the president s credibility. well, the president s credibility has suffered a great deal. i mean, mr. comey has directly couldn t ducted the president, semi-of the pings that the president has said have been shown to be falls and i think the president s credibility has been impacted, not just by this investigation but other statements that he s made that aren t true. what he said about the london mayor is just not true. what he said on so many different occasions have been absolutely wrong, so his credibility has already been affected by how he s handled the office of the presidency