some people may be critical because i m suggesting a semi military solution. until then, the only thing that will work is more like an army of tough love with african american men stepping up addressing their own people. it s more of a cultural issue. people talk a good game. right now we need results. makes no sense, a lot of legislators are passing policy can criminal justice reform instead of talking to the people in the valley. they re making decisions from a mountain time. criminal justice reform is the backfiring on society, especially in chicago. martha: you have an interesting exodus is happening of a lot of african americans and hispanics that are leaving cities in the hundreds of thousands from places like detroit and chicago. we ll have to see if they break up the gangs. we ll see. thank you. good to see you. thank you. martha: all right. this breaking news moments ago.
over 4,400 people shot, 1,645 carjackings in chicago. so once people stop playing games with the numbers and become honest how they re failing in their efforts to reduce shootings and homicides, we can get somewhere in chicago. martha: you say you have a radical solution that needs to be tried. can you explain it? yeah, first and foremost, the gun violence problems in chicago, memphis, new orleans is more of a cultural issue. what i m recommending to everybody, we need a semi military solution. what i mean by that, i m not saying go to the communities with the armies, taking over the corners. we need like a united peace convoy with a united states general to come into these communities and assess the severity of the problem and present new strategies and solutions to dealing with war-torn-type of communities. we re dealing with wartime numbers. something has to be done.