mechanism. in state courts and federal courts if you defy subpoena out right and don t obey the order of a judge you can be held in criminal contempt and contempt of court and then you go to prison for a period of time. we ve seen that happen in cases large and small, large cases get a lot of attention but it happens in cases from time to time. i don t think that s going to be the end result here. i think as jonathan points out, donald trump and his kids view of the fifth amendment and the p propriety of invoking it is likely to change but that has consequences to, the fact you invoke the right against self incriminal inflammation can be used against you, no lawyer can make an inference about it, that s not true in civil cases. in civil cases if you invoke fifth amendment right against self incriminal inflammation, the trying to find you breaking a
important. with regard to fifth amendment privileges of self incriminal , incrimination have to make a decision with immunity. this week, we heard liz cheney twice, refer verbatim to federal statutory language of a crime, with regard to what she s looking at in terms of meadows and others. i think they ll make a criminal referral to doj and i think they ll do it before they get disbanded. and chuck, to you? yeah, two thoughts. first, i think they ve already done an extraordinary job. they ve spoken to more than 300 witnesses. they have reviewed 10s of thousands of documents, they ll tell a robust story. in an investigation, you never get everything you want, some witnesses lie, some are invaluable, so this is something we as prosecutors contend with all the time. there are people who won t speak
it s reporter: the irs agreed to turn over additional documents and e-mails. gregg, back to you. elizabeth, thanks. so as elizabeth mentioned, the ir is the has agreed to turnover documents and e-mails from lois lerner. so could this end questions over targeting? we bring in now the chiefover d lois lerner. so could this end questions over targeting? we bring in now the chief dock at correspondent at the washington examiner. so let s start here. i wanted to ask you, is it legally or constitutionally possible that lerner could face contempt if she continues to be silent? she has a right to invoke the fifth amendment against self incriminal nation, however, some believe that lerner waived that right. or is it more about ethics, you work for the people, now speak