nope, they re probably just trying to survive. and i think we have a holiday that covers that. how do we for a lack of a better word, execute this future of america? how do you get the undocumented immigrants out of the country? i think there would be a tremendous amount of self-deportation if you set a new tone. i think donald trump already set the new tone. obviously a wall would be a symbol of this is us and that s them. wouldn t that be a crazy waste of money? it would put a lot of people to work. i ve been on a lot of construction sites and seen the staff of the construction sites. i think if trump builds a wall, he s not going to hire illegal immigrants. he has before. well, it s hard not to in this economy. yeah, i don t blame donald trump for hiring some illegal will say something that you might find politically incorrect. ut oh. believe it i ve been here all day. i built a good tolerance.
want our policy to be, to scare people who are trying to flee violence. but illegal border crossings are down. matt lewis, i assume you might have a different perspective. yeah, this is a good thing. this is not going and rounding up people and deporting them. this is not, you know, kicking grandmothers out of the country. this is donald trump by the force of his rhetoric having people this isn t even self deportation. this is like self-non-illegal crossing. he is convincing people not to show up. look, i think there are probably a lot of reasons why immigration, the trends of immigration are down. but this, what is it, a 40% decrease in the month of february, it obviously is donald trump. and he doesn t have to do anything else, maybe. maybe all he has to do is talk about this. and people will stop coming. that assumes there s no danger, right, in rhetoric. i can t help but to think about,
him when it comes to security. that s been the missing part. you cannot get this part over here, the comprehensive immigration reform, if people do not believe you re serious about the border and enforcement and enforcing the law. people believe him so i think he could have some leeway on that. but it was such a huge part of his campaign. that being said, a couple years before his campaign, he clearly didn t believe what he was saying during the campaign about immigration. right. he faulted mitt romney for doing self-deportation. the problem with the nixon to china analogy, nixon knew exactly what he wanted out of the china relationship. trump or senior administration official have been, if this is the path they re going to pursue, all over the lot on this. we heard during the campaign, no, everybody needs to leave and then we ll bring the good ones back. now all of a sudden the dreamers, those are, you know, his heart goes out to them, see what we can do for them. he said perhap
and there s no invasion, last five years the number has been stable. more mexicans are leaving the united states than coming here. also there are 4.5 million u.s. children born in this country who have at least one parent who is undocumented. that s the real tragedy. the ap story that donald trump wanted to use national guard to deport immigrants is not true, white house says it is not true, but it feeds to the narrative that president trump is getting ready for mass deportation. i think it is not to punish kids or parents, they re moms and pops. the solution is to find a legal way for them to stay in this country. they re not criminals or terrorists. maybe president trump is crazy like a fox because if he is watching, he is hearing jorge ramos talk about increase in self deportation. people laughed when mitt romney said that, all of a sudden maybe
political story in the country, donald trump holding round the clock meetings over the weekend. we talked about some of the bigger names earlier in the show, but let s talk about some of the other folks you might not be as familiar with. saturday the president-elect met with michelle rhee, along with her husband kevin johnson, the mayor of sacramento. rhee, who is a democrat, was once chancellor of d.c. schools and the meeting has stoked speculation she might be favored for the department of education. she took a tough approach to overhauling underperforming programs, forcing out principals and toughening teacher evaluations, but it proved to be divisive for many. betty devoss also got ab invite. she promotes charter schools. also on sunday chris cobat, the popular but often controversial secretary of state from kansas, the two discussed border security and kobach is one of the architects of the well known arizona immigration law. he was a proponent of the self