manslaughter charge. this is very problematic for the defense. the defense argued to try to get this excluded. i believe if they had been successful in doing that the jury would find it hard to reach the second degree murder. the manslaughter is slightly lower amounts of saying you have to show your reckless disregard is going to be more difficult for the defense to say there is no way that this guy overreacted. this is reasonable. so you are talking about self-defense aspect becomes perhaps a little more shaky. it s what the prosecution will probably say in rebuttal. can you explain how a grand jury handed down the indictments? how does a judge overrule a grand jury? the judge isn t going to. the case gets put forward. a jury tries it. here is the interesting aspect. jurors have no idea about the
he shot him because he wanted to. that s the bottom line. karen de soto, then one asks, well, what is the evidence for that? that he had malice in his heart and wanted to, i guess it s the f-ing punks, these ah s always get away which is an important aspect of proving second-degree murder. absolutely. you have to go for the depraved mind. and all we have is a bunch of curse words on a 911 tape. so obviously the defense is going the say that that just does not rise that is not proof that should put this man in jail. and, you know, we have again the self-defense aspect. i think one of the reasons the defense stayed away from the lesser included offense in arguing that because if you find it for second-degree murder, you have to find it for the lesser included. we re going to go through the elements of second defense. lisa bloom, paul henderson, and karen de soto. they ve been instructed on the law and now they have the case. let s get into what may sway
manslaughter charge. this is very problematic for the defense. the defense argued to try to get this excluded. i believe if they had been successful in doing that the jury would find it hard to reach the second degree murder. the manslaughter is slightly lower amounts of saying you have to show your reckless disregard is going to be more difficult for the defense to say there is no way that this guy overreacted. this is reasonable. so you are talking about self-defense aspect becomes perhaps a little more shaky. it s what the prosecution will probably say in rebuttal. can you explain how a grand jury handed down the indictments? how does a judge overrule a grand jury? the judge isn t going to. the case gets put forward. a jury tries it. here is the interesting aspect. jurors have no idea about the
familiar with florida, a state where there are more than a million concealed weapon permit holders. florida is a very firearms friendly state. reporter: he says having an all female jury could actually help zimmerman s defense. as samuel colt said, god made man but sam colt made them equal, meaning anyone can use a firearm to defend themselves against a larger, stronger assailant. i think the women will understand the self-defense aspect of this case. reporter: also important the level of comfort jurors may have with firearms. we saw defense attorney mark o mara gauge that on friday. firearm. you re pretending that s a firearm? yeah. are you worried? yeah. who is worried i have a firearm. how about now? it s in my pocket. who is concerned.
reporter: all women and most of them familiar with guns. my son just has i guess like a hunting rifle and some bb guns. my brother-in-law has hunting rifles. i used to have a concealed weapons permit. reporter: florida is a friendly firearms state. an attorney who spent more than 15 years handling firearm cases says having an all-female jury could actually help zimmerman s defense. anyone can use a firearm to defend themselves against a larger, stronger assailant. so i don t think it necessarily i think the women will understand the self-defense aspect of this case. reporter: zimmerman says he acted in self-defense when he shot unarmed 17-year-old trayvon martin. prosecutors say zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, unjustly profiled martin because he was african-american. i think the fact that there are caucasians predominating on the jury probably will go in zimmerman s corner. and i say that because i think