told colleagues that president donald j. trump was complaining that the j vice president was being whisked to safety and he told colleagues mr. trump had said something to the effect of, maybe mr. pence should be hanged. you put this in the category of shocking but not surprising. are there legal implications of it, dan? yes, 100%. what it reflects is donald trump s both lack of surprise and support for what was going on at the capitol that day. and that goes to his state of mind. if donald trump is going to get charged for trying to conspire with others to overturn the election, to execute a self-coup, then the prosecutors are going to have to show that he s intended for that to happe and that it was that he knew what he was doing was wrong. that goes, perhaps, a little further than is necessary, but i think that s really i where they re going to have to land, and h what this shows is he didt say, oh my goodness, how
understood that vice president pence was in danger, even when there are mobs chanting, hang mike pence, he continued to send out messages inflaming the mob against him. it seems clear to me that he wanted to continue all the way to complete whatever calling, the green bay sweep, which i am calling, a coup. that is what political science this call it, a self coup, when the president decides to attack the constitutional system in order to prolong his stay in office and set aside the electoral process. wow, congressman, he said the testimony will blow the roof off the house, we are looking for to hearing more of this. thank you as always for joining us, congressman jamie raskin is a member of the january six investigation, as always, we thank you for your time. still ahead this hour, florida republican governor ron desantis says he is trying to turn florida into what he calls, quote, the free estate.
them. even when donald trump understood that vice president pence was in danger, even when there are mobs chanting, hang mike pence, he continued to send out messages inflaming the mob against him. it seems clear to me that he wanted to continue all the way to complete whatever calling, the green bay sweep, which i am calling, a coup. that is what political science this call it, a self coup, when the president decides to attack the constitutional system in order to prolong his stay in office and set aside the electoral process. wow, congressman, he said the testimony will blow the roof off the house, we are looking for to hearing more of this. thank you as always for joining us, congressman jamie raskin is a member of the january six investigation, as always, we thank you for your time. still ahead this hour, florida republican governor ron desantis says he is trying to turn florida into what he calls, quote, the free estate. that is not with the bills he
usa demands the truth. there s others who have talked about the way the president behaved during a period of time. are you confident that you can actually get to the bottom, that you will have a body of evidence that lays out what was going on during that period of time? well, we re filling in a lot more of the detail, i will tell you, chris. i mean, i felt from the days of the senate impeachment trial that the tweets spoke for themselves. donald trump was trying to inflame the mob and further unleashed its fury against mike pence. it s with a political scientist call, a self coup where the president engages in a coup against the constitutional system. and here, mike pence was the target to try to force him to reject electoral college votes from arizona, georgia and pennsylvania. but some people want to hear what don trump was actually saying, what s led in to those tweets. people want to know where the behind the scenes struggles and i think, more and more of that
period of time. are you confident that you can actually get to the bottom, that you will have a body of evidence that lays out what was going on during that period of time? well, we re filling in a lot more of the detail, i will tell you, chris. i mean, i felt from the days of the senate impeachment trial that the tweets spoke for themselves. donald trump was trying to inflame the mob and further unleashed its fury against mike pence. it s with a political scientist call, a self coup where the president engages in a coup against the constitutional system. and here, mike pence was the target to try to force him to reject electoral college votes from arizona, georgia and pennsylvania. but some people want to hear what don trump was actually saying, what s led in to those tweets. people want to know where the behind the scenes struggles and i think, more and more of that information is surfacing. and of course, we did no phone calls going in from family