ukraine or other countries to get into nato. of course, very difficult to see the u.s. agreeing to that. very interesting talks happening between secretary state blinken and sergey lavrov on friday. for more on this, let me bring in ian bremer, the president of eurasia group nz media. let s start with the stakes. i was interested to hear you say yesterday that this is the first major foreign policy crisis of the biden administration, when you have the afghanistan mess and continued provocations coming from north korea. why does this current crisis with russia and ukraine set itself apart? one, we re not still really talking about afghanistan and the united states right now. if this blows up with russia, we ll be talking about it through the biden administration and beyond. it does have much more significant global consequences for relations between major powers. in that regard, as much as afghanistan was significant and was devastating to the people
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table. last night, russia agreed to secretary state blinken and foreign minister lavrov should meet on february 24th. february 24th, in europe, but if russia takes military action before that date, we ll be clear that they have slammed the door shut ony diplomacy. what s important there? well, you know, the president said we believe, and he believes personally, that putin has taken the decision to invade. but that he hasn t invaded. right? so there s a small sliver, a window of opportunity for negotiation. i think it sun exactly right to propose another date, secretary blinken is already in europe at theke munich security conferenc lavrov in moscow, the fact they pushed the date in the future makes me wonder if they re
his word. martha: antony blinken suggests that it might provoke a change in tactics because clearly he is frustrated. there s been reports that he has let go some of his top intelligence officials, some of his military officials perhaps as well. here s secretary state blinken on where this may be headed. we have a strong sense of what russia could do next. we believe that moscow may be setting the stage to use a chemical weapon and then falsely blame ukraine to justify escalating its attacks on the ukrainian people. martha: this is a real fear, ambassador given the frustration and the stalling within ukraine. i don t think secretary blinken is overdramatizing this. my concern was a few days ago when putin started to refer to the fact that there were bio weapons labs in ukraine. the last time that they tried to
what kind of a signal is that sending to vladimir putin? it says we re not prepared to take the measures because we re concerned you will escalate. he s escalating on his terms. if he continues to do that, if he decides when he escalates and he decides when we escalate. we can t let that happen. martha: doesn t sound like there s great communication with secretary state blinken and the president. the wall street journal, the editorial page, wrote that they went all the way to the top. president biden said this is a bridge too far. we re not going to escalate to that point. there s mixed stories about whether or not those particular mig 29s would do what they need to accomplish the mission at this point. the question is the mission, isn t it? i spoke not too long against with general breedlove, the former commander of nato. he said we need to decide whether we re managing the fall of ukraine, are we helping them
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