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just said. did libya attack us? no, they did not attack us. but what they were doing and gadhafi s history and the potential for the disruption and instability was very much in our interest, as bob said, and seen by our european friends and our arab partners as very vital to their interests. there it is. there s the challenge in a nutshell for president obama. sh shibley telhami is now a professor at the university of maryland. professor, let me start with that. to some ears it was almost a contradiction. but it was certainly almost too contradictory characterizations of what america s interest is in libya. what did you hear from that exchange between secretaries gates and clinton? well, gates is clearly a realist. he s always been. this is not new. that s how he s been able to serve two presidents well, both bush and obama. but the notion of what is vital

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