did not have to try very hard. julie: but to the reporter that you are talking about did not lie, he made a mistake. sean spicer, let s call him for what he did. he lied. he went out there and said three or four things that were factually inaccurate. he knew them to be inaccurate, and he lied. harris: the crowd size is not able to come up with a number. julie: are you going to believe my lying eyes, harris, i think anybody with normal vision could see it. secondly they said that there were machines in the mall, the secret service said there weren t. i could go on. you said that there were coverings for the first time in history, the 2013 inauguration was not there. the problem here is secret service says there was no difference than usual. the problem here is and continues to be that you have somebody going out there trying,
that he does not stop the argument because he won the fight. he keeps making the argument. and that is something that republicans have been terrible at. julie: you cannot have sean spicer saying, i got your job, when he doesn t. kennedy: president obama tried to do that, he cannot spin it for hillary clinton. julie: that s why donald trump got elected, that is exactly my point. harris: the other big story coming out of washington, obamacare. two key republican senators have just sent out their plan to reverse the affordable care act. now the patient freedom act is born. we reported friday, donald trump and his first executive action as president, he ordered agencies to release obamacare. and cosponsor of the patient freedom act, he believes that it
size and the controversy over it. i do not understand it. i would give sean spicer this advice, donald trump supporters are meat and potatoes americans that cannot afford to fly to d.c. it cost $400 to do that right now. with technology, who wants to go out in the rain? this is not a big deal in the context of things that are a big deal. i do not understand why we are obsessing over this. you are a populist phenomenon, you are the new president. charles: friday was a workday. kennedy: there was way more security the third time that i ve witnessed that in washington, d.c., a new administration has come in, but i will say that there weren t as many people that i saw in 2012, that is just with my own eyes. meghan: it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. we are awaiting some big boats to the key cabinet picks, but democrats are being accused of using delay tactics as political payback. more on the senate showdown.
but that particularly bothers me, because that means that somebody is not able to walk into a room and counting the artifacts. charles: this is why so many of the trump supporters who suddenly guides and earful about fake news, they are all like, of course, we have been talking about that for a long time. harris: fake vision? charles: exactly, and it is a sloppiness. it is allowing your bias to affect you as a journalist, and it is something that we have seen for a long time. it is a terrible thing, but sean spicer probably did not handle that the best way that he could on saturday. i think that the trump team basically the day after the election plotted that, and they said you know what, the day after inauguration we will go out there and call the press together. we will find the two most egregious things that have happened in the past 24 hours and destroy them. harris: my point is they
he was a loyalist and an aide when he was thrust into that role. he was very successful during president clinton s first campaign for president. then he was really devoured by the press. this is a democratic administration. so, by my estimation, sean spicer should be the host of good morning america in about 20 years. harris: i guess my issue, charlie you can weigh in as well, a reporter is something different, i am bothered if we look at the facts that were bent way out of shape this weekend. i am really stuck on the bust of mlk, that is division in another way. that is division rationally, generationally. i understand that a reporter can get it wrong, but that is not reporting to us, but for us in the media. that gets replicated 3000 or more times, yes, he can apologize, but that was really dicey, the world that we went down this weekend.