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Transcripts for CNN Don Lemon Tonight 20240604 02:02:00

lawyer. according to police reports obtained by cnn a series of electronic devices were seized that day. even deployed an electronic sniffing dog to make sure they didn t miss a thing. it is not clear whether jeffrey clark is the subject of a criminal investigation but sources have previously told cnn that the raid was part of the doj s sweeping investigation into the effort to overturn the 20/20 election more broadly. i want to bring in cnn congressional correspondent ryan nobles, i am glad you are here because tomorrow as you know pat cipollone will testify behind closed doors and we are learning that he was in the dining room with the then- president as the insurrection was unfolding that could be pretty insightful for the committee that he had a first row and front row view. that is true laura and cipollone would be among the small group of people that had

Transcripts for CNN Don Lemon Tonight 20240604 02:05:00

among the group of individuals that were attorneys that were both in the department of justice and the white house that threatened to resign en masse if the president went through with his plan to try to install jeffrey clark as essentially a puppet, attorney general that would try to execute these investigations into these really thin claims of voter fraud in places like georgia and many ways that decision by cipollone and donahue and rosen at the department of justice to stand in the way of clark s appointment could really have been the difference between the country facing a constitutional crisis and not of the department of justice had acted on this effort to look into these voter fraud claims it could ve created a real problem but getting back to that video for a second laura i am sure there will be critics that say why are we showing this he is in his boxer shorts. but i think it is important because it shows just how vital

Transcripts for CNN Don Lemon Tonight 20240604 02:46:00

and having just talk to his son 13 hours before where he called a different method shooter idiotic behavior. do you expect them to try to drink about a diminished capacity argument like what will be, we haven t heard yet to the official plea from him either not guilty or even guilty in this instance, do you expect him to raise a diminished capacity defense? so there are two things, the defense for the father with respect to i think crimes that he could be looking at and they will argue that these issues with my son and the suicide attempt and the fact he was going to injure the family they were remote, they happened much earlier than this particularly happened, he was better at the time and therefore how would i know it wasn t foreseeable so that s what the fathers issue will be, with respect to the sun diminished capacity that is very difficult as would insanity and as you know laura, here is why. how diminished is your capacity if you plotted and you premeditated and you thought

Transcripts for CNN Don Lemon Tonight 20240604 02:43:00

son, from what was actually occurring here to what impacted this community and impacted this country. my view of the matter is that he is likely to face criminal charges and let me tell you why. i think the first thing laura is that there is a general frustration with respect to these mass shootings that are happening everywhere. and i think prosecutors are seeing that and they re making an assessment of what can we do, what role can we play in order, right, to hold people accountable at all levels not just the shooter but anyone and everyone who might ve had a part right, what can we do to hold them accountable, that frustration leaves away creativity, what am i speaking of with respect to the use of the law, you and i both know, you think of dangerous weapons and you think it is a dangerous weapon, it could be a comb that prosecutors have used to prosecute cases to use as a deadly weapon to move forward, what analogy am i making here? in the event for example that you have a crime th

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