think people will wonder, why are they fighting back against it? we do know that they say that this program has saved lives, gotten guns off the street and it is key to keeping to their crime fighting efforts and keeping crime to an historic low. why are they fighting against this? i want to say this, stop and frisk has been around since 1968. it can be a very effective law enforcement tool. i think that is why the mayor wants to make sure the program continues. it has certainly been effective. the supreme court has found it can be effective but, again, it has to be done in a constitutionally appropriate balance. got to find the balance. you ve got to find that balance. perhaps they will win on appeal because the second circuit hasn t been kind to this judge. if you do it, do it right. do it in the way that it s supposed to be done. the way it s supposed to be done, kate, you have to if you re going to stop someone on