that. i m putting that on my resume. i m a good lunacy barometer. let me get you to sort of relive this timeline with me a little bit. going back to i think jeremy, either you or jeremy mentioned sally yates. and jeremy suggested that sally yates must have known when she went to white house counsel dan mcgann and warned him mike flynn could be a target of blackmail with the russians. is it our sense she also warned him and told him and was already in possession of the knowledge that he lied to the fbi when asked about his contacts with sergey kislyak? she didn t know that he had lied to the fbi. she went and gave that warning two days after his interview with the fbi when she testified about it. she said that what she warned don mcgahn was that the white house s public statements about these conversations hadn t been truthful and because of that, mike flynn was subject to
wouldn t do. right. they need to take the oath. except for the fact, kasie hunt, these lawyers, ty cobb, dowd, they are, i believe, from what i ve heard, respected washington lawyers that should know better. look at their client list through the years, right? right. these guys didn t come into town and fall off a turnip truck. historically speaking, yes, joe, you re right. however, recent behavior patterns might indicate perhaps that is no longer the case as you were just outlining. one name we have not talked about yesterday on this program is don mcgann. he is the person who, in this new york times story, detailing this conversation, is cast as the villain. there s a suggestion oh, there s a spy for dan mcgann. i ve known him for years. he is a very seasoned, very much cautious, very much behind the scenes, currently inside the white house as counsel.
were being hauled into the speaker s office for being admonished. aides say ellison was a strong voice in the domination of neil gorsuch. vice president has struggled against the perception that he was out of the loop in the sequence of events that ended with the dismissal of national security advisor mike flynn. vice president pence went on national television said sanctions was not discussed between general flynn in the russian and master. of the vice president didn t know was that sally yates gave an initial heads-up to dan mcgann. the investigation was closed and the topic didn t come up again. as he sits down with the vice president for dinner, president trump cannot but see
were being hauled into the speaker s office for being admonished. aides say ellison was a strong voice in the domination of neil gorsuch. vice president has struggled against the perception that he was out of the loop in the sequence of events that ended with the dismissal of national security advisor mike flynn. vice president pence went on national television said sanctions was not discussed between general flynn in the russian and master. of the vice president didn t know was that sally yates gave an initial heads-up to dan mcgann. the investigation was closed and the topic didn t come up again. as he sits down with the vice president for dinner, president trump cannot but see pence as the man in his inner
an election. so i actually understand his agitation that now his opponent is calling for recounts. no one that s been involved in a recount the florida recount was over 535 votes and bush won the first gore wasn t able to change a margin of less than 600. is that right, ben? correct. this is a number of votes that there is no chance, no potential that any recount will change the outcome. so i think, and what i m hearing, is that this is about something else entirely. ben, while i have you, we mentioned you re a partner at jones day, the law firm in d.c. your colleague there, dan mcgann, was selected to be white house counsel which our friend hugh hewitt predicted, hoped for and agrees that it is one of the most important selections a president-elect can make. because you don t have to see him now at the holiday party, you can be totally frank and candid. what do you make of him and him