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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:17:00

the treasurer of planned parenthood, we are seeing a time for people who are like calculating been afraid about these times represent. they should be, and not just count the attack on abortion, because next will be attacks on contraception there already happening. we already saw that in the hobby lobby case and were already seen attacks on sex education in schools as well. joining our conversation now is neil catio. neil is joining us from london, there is a time zone stress here and i want to get meal and it s quickly as we can. neil in your reading of this 98-page decision. is there anything in it that says that congress should stay out of it. who s doing cream court says that we have no role in this because it should be left of the states. is the supreme court saying that congress instead of this too because it should be left to the states. no, they re not quite saying that, so it s perfectly

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:21:00

had to say in his confirmation hearing, let s listen to that. have your views on whether roe was settled precedent, or could be overturned? and has your views changed since you were in the bush white house with. senator isa said that it settled as a president of the supreme court entitled to respect under-principles of stare decisis. one of the important things to keep in mind about roe v. wade is that it has been reaffirms many times over the past 45 years, as you know. and most prominently, most importantly, reaffirmed in plant parenthood versus casey in 1992. and as you will recall, senator, when that case came up, the supreme court jim just reaffirm it in passing, the court specifically went through all

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:18:00

possible that we codified the roe v. wade above anything the court can put in or take, away but that s going to require majority vote in the house and senate. i think that they should break the filibuster for it, i think if this draft opinion becomes the law, it is a huge list step back for women in decades, for reproductive justice and for reproductive feed him. i think here, lawrence, is the most telling facts in this draft opinion, if it does become the law, it upholds the mississippi law. the mississippi law, had no exception for rape or incest. so it s just a flat ban. so if mississippi is a okay, any other state can do that, or possibly, lawrence, if there are republican takeover of the house in the, senate congress could pass a law banning abortion in all 50 states. so this is a dramatic win, if it becomes the law of the

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:26:00

this country. i m going to ask justice barrett to write it, as the only woman supporting this decision. yeah, lawrence, a lot of us thought that justice barrett had this opinion for exactly that reason, don t forget that was expressly said that she was been held over, when judge kavanaugh was selected, because they wanted to have a woman replace ruth bader ginsburg, so women could write the opinion overturning roe. that was part of that grand plan that s the steelers talking about, and it s also worth remembering, because we talked about confirmation hearings, and michel makes this really important point, it s not just abortion, it was justice barrett who wouldn t say that griswold versus connecticut, that is the case that gave the foundational right to use birth control within marriage, she wouldn t say that that was a president of the court. so i think this really

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:11:00

particularly people of black and brown communities across the united states, that stripping away has led to the undermining not only a voting rights but essentially of abortion rights as well it s important that we stick together these histories and not see this in isolation there is a playbook that runs thickly between racial oppression in the united states and that baked into law. let s remember that states rights laws that s the jim crow playbook. and what we re about to see is the jane crow playbook, which is going to be the companion to the jim crow playbook. we ve seen that revisited through voter suppression, and now we see quite explicitly is that this court under its current formation is ready to yank the rug out from underneath what you ve described as a 49 year protection that was not a close decision a 7 to 2 opinion with five of those justices been republican appointed, and justice black man who wrote the opinion row being placed on the court by richard nixon. so what we s

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