more into the lead and we will start see more dramatic draw downs next year. but i don t foresee anything too significant, part is the white house wants to avoid the optic that it is being forced into greater draw dawns because of a shooting rampage, mistakes made by soldiers, they have to stick to the narrative drawing down on success, deep down inside, lot don t believe that, they can t sort of say, you know what we were right and the military was wrong on the surge. we said we didn t think this was going to work, we were right u into the politically winning strategy in an election year so they are going to have to sort of all be the on the same page in terms of the public narrative how this is working. spencer? is significant from what rajiv said,th in sense of our political debate we are about to have, we see the scope of what go big means it doesn t mean add troops, it means very slowly and for as much time as possible, draw out the draw down. when santorum says go big or go h