that no one has to go through what we did. in january of 2017 months before drew s death, the epa was on track to ban methaline chloride for retail and commercial use. the ban was not finalized. not in 2017 or 2018 despite being responsible for at least 64 deaths since 1980. according to the advocacy organization, safer chemicals, healthy families. senators, members of congress, environmental groups, the wynns shared drew s story with anyone who would listen. you were at that hearing. you could see you in some of the shots behind pruitt. were you or others at epa aware of drew s death when i think it s important to know that we have a proposed ban in place being considered. obviously you re not going to admit whether you know about drew s death. to see the representative ask
that question, what do you have to say to his family, his brothers here today was a powerful, powerful moment. the point was clear. these aren t facts and figures we re talking act. these are human beings. exactly. breaking news coming in. new trouble for scandal plagued scoot pruitt. who is scott pruitt? he was an attorney general from oklahoma who made a pattern of suing the environmental protection agency. a show of hands, those of you who kind of hope that administrator pruitt will just sort of make the epa go away. washington d.c. should not be in the business of picking coal or natural gas or wind or renewables one over the others. it should be making things regular for all those in the industry. that s what we re committed to do in the epa. i love coal and energy country. they love scott pruitt.
will kill people. i ve been accused of rolling back the clean power plan, but you can t roll back something that never went into effect. a coalition of 22 states filed suit against the trump administration to block the ace rule. we re in an upside down world where the epa has become a threat rather than a protector of public health. neither the epa or pruitt responded to cnn s interview requests. coming up, we re on the front lines of these epa rollbacks. i ve been diagnosed with
two weeks of stories about elaine chao is worse on the surface than what ryan zinke and scoot pruitt resigned for. this is b movie stuff, but it is our b movie. this is our swamp now. and if nothing else, it does signify this would be a great time for there to be the start of a national election. joining us is chris lew. he worked as deputy labor secretary in the obama administration. i tried to put this in context against the fact that we know there have been a lot of scandals in the trump cabinet. there have been a lot of resignations, a lot of turnovers. right now there s a lot of acting secretaries because they don t want to try to put people through the confirmation process. i feel like the last two weeks of reporting about elaine chao
changing those regulations. well, in terms of shining a light on that, jennifer, leading some of the reporting here on mr. wheeler, who is a new name because he s coming into pruitt s job today, former coal lobbyist who shares his zeal to undue government regulations but unlike pruitt, he s viewed, as mentioned here tonight, a con s sumate washington insider. he could be more effective in implementing trump s deregulatory agenda. i wonder if this is sort of the mike pence piece of the administration? there is all of the controversial and sometimes, frankly, embarrassing conduct around the more flamboyant members of the trump administration. but then beneath that, there is a hard right group of people moving much more quietly. and if so, what, if anything, should be done about that, jennifer? well, i think you re right that in essence this is trading