significant spending reforms in this. it cannot pass. it will not pass. he has to get in the game. this is happening. in the meantime the white house is flirting with this idea that s very dangerous. something they floated to the new york times today suggesting that somehow the constitution makes it illegal, unconstitutional to have a debt ceiling. this is utter science fiction fantasy. it is dangerous. they are wrong and they know they re wrong but they also know they are losing this legislative debate because the american people are demanding better as they suffer under the yoke of inflation. harris: i want people to understand, you hear democrats talk about this and the world will blow up. you hear republicans talk about it and they want to save the nation from pain. so there is some pain potentially there. what is it if they can t reach deal on the debt ceiling and just have a complete stand-off on all of it? so if there were no deal, then once we blow past what s known as th