do you think it s possible? there have been some schizms between him and president trump before. do you think he s out of the loop? no, i don t think he s out of the loop. obviously the president is a disruptor. i think the trip to the dmz was a great optic and gesture that needed to be made. but at the end of the day a nuclear weapon in the hands of kim jong-un is not something that i support nor do i think many colleagues on both sides of the aisle support. i want to ask you what you say to critics widely i think no one is completely panning what the president did, but there s a big concern among people in this space that he s giving away leverage over kim by doing something like this, a photo op with north korea, which is something north korea really wants, without getting any concrete commitments on nukes. what do you say to that? well, you know, as the president walked away from the summit, i m confident the president is doing what he needs